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Old 04-12-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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I understand the article was about low fat. Low fat is really the alternative to low carb. There is a ton of evidence supporting low carb vs low fat. I'm not going to get in a pi$$ing contest with you because you are going to believe what you want to believe.
There is another alternative, which is actually the healthy, sensible, long term alternative. A diet that is relatively low calorie without making any particular nutrient low in terms of the percentage of calories. This would be the sensible, healthy way to eat.

This is the way that most people who maintain a healthy weight over the long term eat.

I know. Who wudda thunk it!? Sensible eating with portion control getting nutrients from a wide variety of whole foods without obsessing about one particular nutrient such as protein or carbohydrates.

But, for some reason, many people always are looking for some fad alternative that inevitably leaves them fatter down the road.

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Old 04-12-2016, 11:16 PM
 
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I was eating whole grain before and sprouted bread. Wheat belly didn't scare me off (I didn't read it). I bloat very easy and am lactose intolerant, so for grins I went strict Paleo. It was great, I felt good too but it wasn't sustainable. So, i decided to dial it back in my approach and just try to avoid processed food in general. Fruits, veggies, nuts and meat are all okay. I won't freak out about eating a English muffin here and there - so long as it doesn't become habit. But I shy away from eating bread, rice, oats or grains generally speaking. I just don't think it's worth the calories and those sorts of things (pasta included) were never things I liked that much anyways. Occasionally, I'll even have yogurt (lactose free) or a little cream cheese.

For example, today I had seared ahi tuna on cucumber rounds with a little veggie cream cheese. It was so good.
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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This is similar to what I said in an earlier post on this thread. The more natural and less processed the better. When I quit eating sugar I lost 6 pounds in one week. I was shocked. I will, on occasion, have a small piece of dessert if I'm at a family gathering but I don't eat sugary cereals and I quit drinking Coke which was hard. However the reward is when you get to go shopping for new clothes when you start dropping weight (10 lbs is supposedly a dress size) and you feel better about yourself. I know I did and I wasn't obese, just zaftig.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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There is another alternative, which is actually the healthy, sensible, long term alternative. A diet that is relatively low calorie without making any particular nutrient low in terms of the percentage of calories. This would be the sensible, healthy way to eat.

This is the way that most people who maintain a healthy weight over the long term eat.

I know. Who wudda thunk it!? Sensible eating with portion control getting nutrients from a wide variety of whole foods without obsessing about one particular nutrient such as protein or carbohydrates.

But, for some reason, many people always are looking for some fad alternative that inevitably leaves them fatter down the road.
A diet that has been around for well over 100 years is not a fad.
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:21 PM
 
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Not true.
That is completely false, wheat was modified (Green Revolution era) to feed global population. Wheat found in most commonly is high yield semi-dwarf durum wheat grown from a short plant with very thick seed heads, absolutely nothing like the plant that was grown before that (prior to the 1970s).
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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A diet that has been around for well over 100 years is not a fad.
It comes and goes in different marketing schemes. It is still a fad.
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Old 04-13-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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That is completely false, wheat was modified (Green Revolution era) to feed global population. Wheat found in most commonly is high yield semi-dwarf durum wheat grown from a short plant with very thick seed heads, absolutely nothing like the plant that was grown before that (prior to the 1970s).
Yes, it is different than the wheat prior to the 70s, but wheat had been cross-breeding and modifying itself for thousands of years. Are their studies supporting the idea that modern wheat is somehow bad for us?
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Old 04-13-2016, 11:18 PM
 
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That is completely false, wheat was modified (Green Revolution era) to feed global population. Wheat found in most commonly is high yield semi-dwarf durum wheat grown from a short plant with very thick seed heads, absolutely nothing like the plant that was grown before that (prior to the 1970s).
Nutritionally it is almost the same.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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Nutritionally it is almost the same.
It has enhanced appetite stimulating properties and negative health ramifications of all kinds, you'll only realize that fact once you stop consuming it entirely.
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Old 04-16-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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Yes, it is different than the wheat prior to the 70s, but wheat had been cross-breeding and modifying itself for thousands of years. Are their studies supporting the idea that modern wheat is somehow bad for us?
https://authoritynutrition.com/moder...lth-nightmare/
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