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If you are eating a significant amount of veggies and protein.....and you think you are doing a Keto-diet, I would advise you to check your ketone-levels. You may be disappointed!
The Keto diet was brought up at dinner yesterday with friends. One friend is going to start it as her parents both had dementia and she's reading a book now about the keto diet and alzheimers.
I'm basically doing keto as I avoid breads, pastas, white potatoes --- yesterday I had some mashed potatoes, but this is rare.
Yes, I saw an episode of Dr. Oz on this topic. I am not a big fan of Dr. Oz and I usually think he's a sell out but it did come to my attention. They mention intermittent fasting and Ketogenic diets as a preventative and even a reversal for some.
Yes, I saw an episode of Dr. Oz on this topic. I am not a big fan of Dr. Oz and I usually think he's a sell out but it did come to my attention. They mention intermittent fasting and Ketogenic diets as a preventative and even a reversal for some.
That is something called confirmation bias. You believe it because you agree with it.
I am not saying you are wrong - but if Dr. Oz had one someone talking about eating grains and starches and losing weight and getting healthy you would probably dismiss it. The fact of the matter different diets work for a variety of reasons. Intermittent fasting is supposed to be a great option for health. For people with diabetes Keto works as long as people can stick with it.
That is something called confirmation bias. You believe it because you agree with it.
I am not saying you are wrong - but if Dr. Oz had one someone talking about eating grains and starches and losing weight and getting healthy you would probably dismiss it. The fact of the matter different diets work for a variety of reasons. Intermittent fasting is supposed to be a great option for health. For people with diabetes Keto works as long as people can stick with it.
You seem to really be stuck on the losing weight thing. What I said I did not make up, it came from the show and it had NOTHING to do with losing weight.
You're bias is certainly obvious and I keep hearing the same thing over and over. If the diet works for you then great but it doesn't work for me. I GET THAT. It's about health, I moved on from losing weight a long time ago and it has nothing to do with diabetes. Diets are not only to lose weight but to gain and maintain health
The videos play in short segments, one will follow the other IF you even care to watch. The diet they talk about is the Ketoflex 12/3 diet. 12 hours of fasting, 3 hours between eating and bedtime.
This is just a part of the whole segment on the Dr. Oz show, the part where they talk to some patients. Previous to this are the hard tests like brain scans that show real improvements, following this is the part where they talk about the diet.
You seem to really be stuck on the losing weight thing. What I said I did not make up, it came from the show and it had NOTHING to do with losing weight.
You're bias is certainly obvious and I keep hearing the same thing over and over. If the diet works for you then great but it doesn't work for me. I GET THAT. It's about health, I moved on from losing weight a long time ago and it has nothing to do with diabetes. Diets are not only to lose weight but to gain and maintain health
The videos play in short segments, one will follow the other IF you even care to watch. The diet they talk about is the Ketoflex 12/3 diet. 12 hours of fasting, 3 hours between eating and bedtime.
This is just a part of the whole segment on the Dr. Oz show, the part where they talk to some patients. Previous to this are the hard tests like brain scans that show real improvements, following this is the part where they talk about the diet.
Do you have Alzheimers? I'm so sorry, I've always found the thought of that frightening to the point where I will have it addressed in my will.
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Do you have Alzheimers? I'm so sorry, I've always found the thought of that frightening to the point where I will have it addressed in my will.
I do not have it, thank God. If I did, I don't think I would be even posting this. As we all know, diet has a large part to do with our general health, Cancer, Heart Disease, Alzheimer's etc. For a lot of us (including me), it's a bit too late. I am a type 2 diabetic and yes there is the genetic factor but for me it was a poor diet. So no I am not speaking of myself. It goes way beyond weight loss and that was my point. Inflammation IS the enemy and a lot of it comes from consuming refined sugar and carbohydrates. The logical evidence is there and many choose to ignore this evidence, doctors included. You can be thin and fit and still be in poor health.
I do not have it, thank God. If I did, I don't think I would be even posting this. As we all know, diet has a large part to do with our general health, Cancer, Heart Disease, Alzheimer's etc. For a lot of us (including me), it's a bit too late. I am a type 2 diabetic and yes there is the genetic factor but for me it was a poor diet. So no I am not speaking of myself. It goes way beyond weight loss and that was my point. Inflammation IS the enemy and a lot of it comes from consuming refined sugar and carbohydrates. The logical evidence is there and many choose to ignore this evidence, doctors included. You can be thin and fit and still be in poor health.
Refined sugar and carbs.....
When you say carbs, are you talking about simple or complex?
I'm thin and fit, but have autoimmune (various) disease. Keto caused the auto immune to flare up so I could barely walk. I do much better with complex carbs (millet, farro, spelt, etc.) and lots of veggies, herbs, spices and the like. I was going slightly pre diabetic, so I added a little more protein to each meal and I am back in normal range.
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You seem to really be stuck on the losing weight thing. What I said I did not make up, it came from the show and it had NOTHING to do with losing weight.
You're bias is certainly obvious and I keep hearing the same thing over and over. If the diet works for you then great but it doesn't work for me. I GET THAT. It's about health, I moved on from losing weight a long time ago and it has nothing to do with diabetes. Diets are not only to lose weight but to gain and maintain health
The videos play in short segments, one will follow the other IF you even care to watch. The diet they talk about is the Ketoflex 12/3 diet. 12 hours of fasting, 3 hours between eating and bedtime.
This is just a part of the whole segment on the Dr. Oz show, the part where they talk to some patients. Previous to this are the hard tests like brain scans that show real improvements, following this is the part where they talk about the diet.
Well for one they are selling books. And so that needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I have seen so many crackpots on Dr Oz that it is hard to distinguish which ones are genuine.
If in fact these claims are true then that is great news. However I am skeptical.
I do not have it, thank God. If I did, I don't think I would be even posting this. As we all know, diet has a large part to do with our general health, Cancer, Heart Disease, Alzheimer's etc. For a lot of us (including me), it's a bit too late. I am a type 2 diabetic and yes there is the genetic factor but for me it was a poor diet. So no I am not speaking of myself. It goes way beyond weight loss and that was my point. Inflammation IS the enemy and a lot of it comes from consuming refined sugar and carbohydrates. The logical evidence is there and many choose to ignore this evidence, doctors included. You can be thin and fit and still be in poor health.
I know that you and I debate a great deal about diet but I respect your beliefs. Low carb/fasting/keto-lite changed you and really, that's how diets should work even if I don't like them. My mindset has also changed...shall I even say "transformational"?
I will say this though...the day I became lean (I don't want to say thin because I don't consider myself thin) and fit, my health improved. Weight was my enemy. It helped spawn medical problems that I am still dealing with and will deal with for the rest of my life if I'm lucky. I know who you are talking about, people who are predisposed to be thin yet eat garbage and not gain a pound. Or smokers. Yeah, those people are compromising their health. But my diet, where I consume sensible amounts of fat, protein, and carbs has benefitted me beyond weight loss. I consume sugar because it falls under "feels good". We all need some "feel good" things in our diets, you just have to keep the amounts in check. When I was on vacation, I ate lots of sugar, calorie and fat laden food. As good as the food tasted, my body was suffering. I've returned to eating vegetables, whole grains, beans, lean meat...and I feel so much better.
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