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ive been going to the same gym now for the last 16 years until they closed permanently for the coronavirus. just a bunch of regular shlubs in brooklyn. high % of old people id say. they are never doing anything useful.
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Generally, people in my gym are pretty dedicated. I work until 3, so when I was going I was often seeing some of the HS kids who were just here to socialize with their other friends, but most of the other crowd (and even some of the high school kids) seems to be focused. I was at a different branch that had a yoga room set up by all the heavy weights and I’m not sure they were as dedicated in that one. It seemed like some of the folks who went there only did it to make as big a show as possible out of grunting and throwing weights around, which was kind of hilarious when you were in the yoga room trying to relax and hearing all the banging and noises.
I restarted more aggressive exercise a month or two ago, and while I eat healthy, I haven't really been changing what I eat much.
So yeah, down 5 lbs, BUT I've lost around 2 inches in my mid section, less thass, more differentiation between what is butt and what is thigh, triceps have lost their wobble.
So the difference in my build at my current weight with and without exercise, is huge. My clothes look so much better.
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I restarted more aggressive exercise a month or two ago, and while I eat healthy, I haven't really been changing what I eat much.
So yeah, down 5 lbs, BUT I've lost around 2 inches in my mid section, less thass, more differentiation between what is butt and what is thigh, triceps have lost their wobble.
So the difference in my build at my current weight with and without exercise, is huge. My clothes look so much better.
If it truly were "calories in vrs calories out" we would not have an obesity problem. It is stunning to me that people delude themselves into that thinking. Why would anyone want to be fat or obese? They wouldn't. Being fat subjects you to so many negative things.. socially and health wise. Nor can you say that suddenly we all have a will-power problem. A very good example is Oprah Winfrey... who is amazingly successful in her life in all areas but not this one thing. Not to mention that she has tried everything and they all failed... to assume it is because she is a glutton makes zero sense. She doesn't accept that kind of behavior in any other area of her life, why would she in this?
Talk about a confirmation bias, if you don't have a weight problem you have to assume that everyone else is just lazy or a glutton. But objectively if you really thought about it you would realize that most people are not and it defies reality to say that 50+ percent of the population just got that much lazier since the 1970s.
And now, we are finding out more and more that the advice that was sold to us was completely wrong. Chances are if you are overweight you have been reading the studies and trying to solve the problem for years... and all that advice was 100% the opposite of what you should be doing. No wonder we have an obesity problem.
Now we have large portions of the world that are not only fat but have vastly wrong ideas that they will defend to the death.
I will also say that people who don't have an argument always change the argument but this thread was not about exercise being good or bad for you. It simply isn't something that should be in your losing weight tool box.
Part of Ponzer's book on the subject does have an amazing theory about how exercise keeps us healthy but it goes hand in hand with the information on how our TDEES do not go up with exercise. So in our arrogance and prejudice I am sure you won't read it.
Show us any literature that says you can gain weight on a caloric deficit. Take your time I'll wait. ... maybe I'll be waiting forever.
Flawed thinking at its best. Of course its calories in vs calories out. We have a huge problem with obesity in this country because people eat vast quantities of terrible food. Pay attention to any fast food commercial and you will see some sort of meal that is 600 calories and up and then they give it some low price. People drink soda by the gallons. Sugary foods, lack of healthy foods, and being sedentary are the NUMBER ONE REASONS why we are a nation that is almost 40% obese.
Show me a person who eats a healthy diet with foods from ALL the food groups, no fast food, stays within a calorie limit (not a lose-weight - diet limit), and exercises and I am willing to bet you a million dollars they are not obese.
People need to be accountable for what they eat.
And I am sorry but this whole idea of making a post of not needing exercise is just reckless. No one is forcing you to exercise but please stop making it a campaign.
The Standard American Diet (SAD) is simply a recipe for obesity. We have aisles of snack/junk foods. We have high caloric, fatty, sugary and salty fast food.
We super-size our drinks and meals.
Add in lack of exercise and we have an obese, sick--and getting sicker-- population.
Every ethnic culture in the world, when exposed to and adopting a European/American diet, has become more ill and more fat...
I have always suspected this but now I see it is true. So killing yourself at the gym only steals energy away from other critical functions. Gyms are going to see quite a drop in business.
Aerobics and motion exercises that ordinary people do, DO burn more calories, but not enough to make a difference in weight, IMO, except over a loooooong period of time. However, there IS an after effect in that if someone exercises aerobically hard enough, that will speed up the metabolism for some time AFTER the exercise.
There is a difference in working out w/weights, tho, IMO. If a person can build muscle, that muscle will consume more calories that less muscle 24X7 and help with losing weight.
I've had to watch my weight all my life. I've seen that it's mainly what, how much, and when you eat that affects weight. You can lie in bed all week and lose weight, if you don't eat much. You can exercise a lot all week and not lose one ounce, if you eat too much (esp at night).
The Standard American Diet (SAD) is simply a recipe for obesity. We have aisles of snack/junk foods. We have high caloric, fatty, sugary and salty fast food.
We super-size our drinks and meals.
Add in lack of exercise and we have an obese, sick--and getting sicker-- population.
Every ethnic culture in the world, when exposed to and adopting a European/American diet, has become more ill and more fat...
Its true. See what happened to Kuwait after we put in a bunch of fast food places. Its now one of the most obese countries in the world.
I have always suspected this but now I see it is true. So killing yourself at the gym only steals energy away from other critical functions. Gyms are going to see quite a drop in business.
This statement feels intuitively wrong to me. Muscle tissue burns more calories than fat tissue does. So having more muscles is beneficial to lose weight. Also, why do I feel so much healthier and more energized at times I get to workout regularly, when this only steals my energy for vital body functions?
Some would argue that a 3:30 marathon runner is not a competitive runner.
If by "competitive" you mean someone who will win the marathon or place near the top finishers, you're correct. But I assure you, a 3:30 marathon is an exceptional time and averages out to running 26.2 miles at a steady 8 minute per mile pace. My P.R. in the marathon is 3:44 and the amount of training it takes to get to that point is arduous and lengthy.
90% of American teenagers couldn't even run one single mile in 8 minutes, never mind 26.
If by "competitive" you mean someone who will win the marathon or place near the top finishers, you're correct. But I assure you, a 3:30 marathon is an exceptional time and averages out to running 26.2 miles at a steady 8 minute per mile pace. My P.R. in the marathon is 3:44 and the amount of training it takes to get to that point is arduous and lengthy.
90% of American teenagers couldn't even run one single mile in 8 minutes, never mind 26.
Full disclosure:
I couldn't.
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