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Old 08-21-2014, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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I believe that it disadvantages the millions of people who actually have bills to pay.
I understand that kids benefit from holding a job early. I want my children to be responsible and.competent when they get older.
However employment is not.a teaching tool-it is a necessity. As parents we are required to meet our childrens' needs until the ahe of 18. Basically the earnings go toward leisure.

Think about it-there are people facing eviction and without food. And it's hard for them to find work. So why should we hire someone who doesn't need the money?

There's another way to teach responsibility. It's called chores.

There may be exceptions- If the family's income is below a certain level, and of course any emancipated teens.

As an assistant manager I cannot discriminate based on need. But I do think if this was considered, it would help a llot of needy americans find work.
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:25 AM
 
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And it takes a job away from an illegal alien...
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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And it takes a job away from an illegal alien...
So your american-bred child is more worthy of a job than someone else, all because of birthplace?

A person can control what they're born into, apparently.
I find it funny how some people have sympathy for people with disabilities but being from another country or not born with a silver spoon in your mouth makes you unworthy.
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:50 AM
 
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I believe that it disadvantages the millions of people who actually have bills to pay.
I understand that kids benefit from holding a job early. I want my children to be responsible and.competent when they get older.
However employment is not.a teaching tool-it is a necessity. ....
Time have changed, and drastically so since the 80's, and, thus, much against my own experience and beliefs - I have to agree with you. For a variety of reasons, jobs formerly available to high school and college students are desperately needed by adult Americans.

However, I was the sole surviving child of two extraordinarily immature parents, who were unhappily married to boot (surprise!). I learned absolutely nothing about how to grow up and become an adult from them. I had a very larger paper route from about ages 12 -14, I guess it was; and after that I worked in a pharmacy - before school, after school, all day Saturday and a full-time six-day work week in the summer. The most valuable part of this latter job was that interacted exclusively with adults, and I was expected to fill-in at many adult tasks. In two summers of university, I worked in a factory all summer.

As far as I am concerned working was a major part of my personal education....without it I doubt that I would not have had the confidence to leave home and go to a university, or the emotional equipment to handle it, or even simply to leave that small town. And I was by no means the only adolescent who worked that much. For many teenagers part-time job was expected by parents.

It is an opportunity that, sadly, has been lost; and that loss in my opinion is part of the explanation for why we have developed such an adolescent culture and why "adults" frequently function at the level of adolescents. But...in a radically changed America, and one struggling to keep its place in an increasingly unstable world, jobs are for adults.

As for chores, from what I observed they were few and far between or non-existent in most families.
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:52 AM
 
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And it takes a job away from an illegal alien...
i have not seen any americans delivering chinese food on a bicycle in the dead of winter.
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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Some people do grow up without support.

So it's not just to criticize a struggling person when you had help early.

You don't know anyone's story or circumstances. All you care about is how it affects you. Christ's "love" indeed.
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:13 AM
 
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You assume a lot, and you know what they say about assuming. A teen who gets a job can need the money just as much as anyone else, to pay for his education, to put food on his table. How do you know his money isnt needed to help support his household?

Just because someone is a teen, doesnt mean they dont NEED money. And kudos to them for going to work.
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:15 AM
 
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i agree , employment should be open to all who need money . period!
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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You assume a lot, and you know what they say about assuming. A teen who gets a job can need the money just as much as anyone else, to pay for his education, to put food on his table. How do you know his money isnt needed to help support his household?


Just because someone is a teen, doesnt mean they dont NEED money. And kudos to them for going to work.
Read the entire thing before getting defensive. I said that family income should be taken into account.

I think it's wonderful that we have diligent young people. But we also need to consider the struggling individuals.

The aIge has nothing to do with it. If the parents are doing their job you shouldn't have to worry about having a place to sleep.

And we have emancipated teens. They count as responsible.
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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So your american-bred child is more worthy of a job than someone else, all because of birthplace?

A person can control what they're born into, apparently.
I find it funny how some people have sympathy for people with disabilities but being from another country or not born with a silver spoon in your mouth makes you unworthy.
But a person can enter a country legally with the correct paperwork for employment. If you want to work here, do it legally as I would if I wanted to work in another country.

Yes, an American born child is more deserving of a job in America just like a Mexican born child is more deserving of a job in Mexico. Countries should take care of their own people first. Then legal immigrants. Illegals should go home.
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