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Old 01-26-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure it's illegal in MOST states. But, you lost me with your "special snowflake" remark. All parents should be able to count on a good public education for their child without having to jump through hoops or falsify information to get it.
You're right-- they should. But reality is, they can't. And teaching your kid it's okay to lie, cheat and steal is not, IMO, the way to go.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Mom Jailed For Sending Kids to Better School (http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/mom-jailed-for-sending-kids-to-better-school-23973624 - broken link)

Do you think that it is acceptable for a parent/parents to falsify residency to get their child into a better school district?

Where's the line between right and wrong?

What about the parent/parents who sacrificed to move to the better district and have to subsidize other children whose parent/parents are not sharing the cost burden?
Whatever works...lord knows there are mucho crappo public schools out there.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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I'm not so sure. I think most of the posters here are coming from lofty positions; if you live somewhere with good schools or can afford to move somewhere else if not, or if you have other options, then it's easy to take the higher road. I don't approve of falsifying residency and I don't think it should be condoned, but at the same time I think many of the people who resort to this are really desperate. They don't have the time to wait around for school funding battles to change things or for their schools to improve.

I still don't think it's right, just think that parents should step back and think about what might cause a desperate parent to resort to such measures.

I also think it's morally wrong that many of our schools are so unequal. The tax dollar argument doesn't cut it on that count, either; are the kids of wealthy parents morally entitled to a better education than the kids of poorer parents? Apparently many out there believe that to be the case.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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It is not acceptable.

The one reason that was glad to see rick santorum voted out in Pa in 2006 was because that is exactly what he did.

You gotta pay to play.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm not so sure. I think most of the posters here are coming from lofty positions; if you live somewhere with good schools or can afford to move somewhere else if not, or if you have other options, then it's easy to take the higher road. I don't approve of falsifying residency and I don't think it should be condoned, but at the same time I think many of the people who resort to this are really desperate. They don't have the time to wait around for school funding battles to change things or for their schools to improve.

I still don't think it's right, just think that parents should step back and think about what might cause a desperate parent to resort to such measures.

I also think it's morally wrong that many of our schools are so unequal. The tax dollar argument doesn't cut it on that count, either; are the kids of wealthy parents morally entitled to a better education than the kids of poorer parents? Apparently many out there believe that to be the case.
Morally entitled? No, but people should be free to care about their own children more than someone else's. If the people with crappy schools want better schools then raise their property taxes. It's not fair to force one school district to let another mooch off of it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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This is ridiculous.

The woman's father lived in the district and was paying taxes to that town. If they wanted to remove the children fine but to jail her is ridiculous. So now that shes in jail, the grandfather looks after the kids and they get to go to school there anyway? What was the point?

I could completely understand if no one in the family lived in the town, but their grandfather did. What if it their father had lived in the town instead should they have been allowed to attend then?
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:10 PM
 
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I'm not so sure. I think most of the posters here are coming from lofty positions; if you live somewhere with good schools or can afford to move somewhere else if not, or if you have other options, then it's easy to take the higher road. I don't approve of falsifying residency and I don't think it should be condoned, but at the same time I think many of the people who resort to this are really desperate. They don't have the time to wait around for school funding battles to change things or for their schools to improve.

I still don't think it's right, just think that parents should step back and think about what might cause a desperate parent to resort to such measures.

I also think it's morally wrong that many of our schools are so unequal. The tax dollar argument doesn't cut it on that count, either; are the kids of wealthy parents morally entitled to a better education than the kids of poorer parents? Apparently many out there believe that to be the case.
Can't rep you, but I agree. The same people who don't want parents lying to send their kids to better schools complain that the lack of parental involvement is what causes poor schools to start with.

We are in GA, with county school boards. The north end of the county, where I live, has excellent schools. The south end has recognized awful schools. Now, if a parent from the south makes an effort to get their child into the schools in my town, I perceive them as parents who want a better education, not as cheats. We do pay higher city taxes, but not higher county taxes, where the school funding originates from.

Some kids from the south take public transportation up to 2 hours each way to attend our highly rated high school. They are legally allowed to, as their local schools have not made AYP. But, all I can say, to them and their parents, is kudos for valuing an education.

It isn't always black and white.
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This is ridiculous.

The woman's father lived in the district and was paying taxes to that town. If they wanted to remove the children fine but to jail her is ridiculous. So now that shes in jail, the grandfather looks after the kids and they get to go to school there anyway? What was the point?

I could completely understand if no one in the family lived in the town, but their grandfather did. What if it their father had lived in the town instead should they have been allowed to attend then?
They investigated 30 or 40 parents for doing this. They gave them all the option of removing their children but she was the only one to not admit to the scam. They followed her with a PI for more than 2 weeks and found out she was driving them to a bus stop from her own home which was 45 minutes away.
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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No!!!!
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