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Old 09-14-2011, 01:07 AM
 
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I wonder how this will be spun. The AP is discussing how orthodox Jews were angry at Weprin for voting for gay marriage. I suspect this will get heavy play.
this isn't spin this is clearly true (look at any Orthodox new outlet)
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:10 AM
 
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GAY Marriage. That is not the issue with largely orthodox Jewish population in that district. It is Weprins support of a Muslim Mosque at ground zero and his perceived softness on Israel. Zionist like NeoCon Republicans. No big surprise here. Eventhough Weprin was Jewish, he was not Zionist enough for the orthodox Jews in that district. No spin. That is just the way that it is.

Fortunately, most of the conservative orthodox Jewish population is concentrated in that part of the country. It would be even better if they just moved to Israel and leave us the rest of us alone. Of course, they probably have dual citizenship, which in my mind should prevent them from voting in the U.S., because of conflict of interest.
please explain this article
The Yeshiva World YWN MAILBAG: Only A Few Hours Left For NY-9 « » Frum Jewish News

and more importantly this Jewish legal decision (some of these are the biggest Orthodox Rabbis in America)
http://www.matziv.com/pictures/flatbushpsakonweprin
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Outside of the South this district had the highest number of Democratic crossover voters for McCain in 2008. Democratic Party registration in this district means about as much as Democratic party registration in the state of Kentucky.
Oh right, right. A seat that once belonged to Shumer, Ferraro, Weiner, that had been in dem hands for over a century, is now being deemed by the Left as predictable red. Hilarious!

Oh, you'd best read this;

For Democrats, It's 2010 All Over Again - NYTimes.com

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They won't want to blame Obama.
They don't want to, but it is unavoidable.

http://www.memeorandum.com/

Democrats aren't just whispering behind the curtain about obama, they are coming right and saying it.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: NC
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Oh right, right. A seat that once belonged to Shumer, Ferraro, Weiner, that had been in dem hands for over a century, is now being deemed by the Left as predictable red. Hilarious!
No doubt it is bad for democrats just like NY 26 was bad for Republicans, but that is the part where critical reading comes in. The PVI of the district is D+5 with a 3-1 D voter advantage. Tell me sanrene how does a 3-1 D voter advantage translate into a PVI of only D+5 in 2008? It translates that way because of exactly what I said. Democrats in this district's presidental voting patterns are closer those of Democrats in the state of Kentucky then they are to pretty much anywhere else, at least outside of the south. The last time Democratic party registration was an accurate portrayal of the presidential vote was in 2000 when Joe Lieberman was on the ticket. Just like the last time Kentucky's party registration was an accurate portrayal of the presidential vote was in 1996 when Bill Clinton was running.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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No doubt it is bad for democrats just like NY 26 was bad for Republicans, but that is the part where critical reading comes in. The PVI of the district is D+5 with a 3-1 D voter advantage. Tell me sanrene how does a 3-1 D voter advantage translate into a PVI of only D+5 in 2008? It translates that way because of exactly what I said. Democrats in this district's presidental voting patterns are closer those of Democrats in the state of Kentucky then they are to pretty much anywhere else, at least outside of the south. The last time Democratic party registration was an accurate portrayal of the presidential vote was in 2000 when Joe Lieberman was on the ticket. Just like the last time Kentucky's party registration was an accurate portrayal of the presidential vote was in 1996 when Bill Clinton was running.
Your spin is laughable. Keep it coming.

I can't wait to hear your rationalizations when Oblama gets fired.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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this is very Orthodox Jewish, catholic, and Russian district (if Manny Cellar ran here today he would have gotten 70%-80%of the vote ) and for various reasons they have been leaving the Democratic party in droves and for some reason instead of correcting the reasons they keep pushing them harder and harder on the issues that are turning people Republican and trying to place revenge on them for going away from them. (if the democrats keep this up the white ethnic vote in NY will be just as Republican as the deep south) (and if the republicans ever got in their heads to reach out to racial (at least what appears on the census forms) minority voters the Republicans will win big in NYC (outside of the few left wing nutjob neighborhoods))

in short these are the modern age Reagan democrats and if the Democrat don't wake up soon they'll be the ex democrats.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: NC
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Your spin is laughable. Keep it coming.

I can't wait to hear your rationalizations when Oblama gets fired.
It's a bit early to predict the outcome of the 2012 race don't you think? Then again people like you thought McCain/Palin was a lock.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Do take a peek at the PVI and how much republicans are over performing.

Nate the Lefty has some red flags up. The red wave of 2010 might still be cresting.

For Democrats, It's 2010 All Over Again - NYTimes.com
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Dems seats...going, going, gone, Thank you NY and Nev.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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Heard Around Town, Sept. 14, 2011 (http://www.cityhallnews.com/2011/09/heard-around-town-sept-14-2011/ - broken link)
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