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People have a right to work in their chosen field without being forced to violate their conscience. Sometimes we even allow people to opt out of military service if their religion frowns on war.
See how that works?
We actually give rights to minority groups.
...just not any minority groups liberals care about.
But if the Catholic church wants to operate public institutions, then they have to follow public law.
Hey, I disagree with telling everyone they have to provide this, that or the other. I think that if a private business owner doesn't want to provide wheel chair access, then they shouldn't have to.
But the fact remains, most Americans disagree with my opinion, and they feel that if you operate a public facility, then you have to follow public law.
No one is forcing anyone to swallow a birth control pill, just that its offered.
our goverment and congress doesnt even follow all the laws that they make and you want the catholic church to follow the law.
Pew Poll, BEFORE obama's latest WAR on Religion, the decision to FORCE religious organizations to provide and pay for BC, contraception that their religion rejects. This latest power grab by obama will not work and is SURE to set Christians even more against him.
You would have thought he learned something from the latest SCOTUS ruling about the federal government dictating their secular beliefs onto religious org.
Maybe he thinks he doesn't need these voters.....just like his campaign said he doesn't really need white voters?
But..he's obama, he gets to decide what constitutes religious exceptions.
This will be going to the courts very soon I predict.
I find it rather amusing that these people are finally coming to the realization that the man they trusted and voted for is really NOT a friend.
He just USED you, he DUPED you to get your vote...and you fell for it, like so many others.
This is true and people of ALL faiths are rallying around the issue of forcing Obamacare's rules of requiring Catholics to provide BC and Abortion Pills because it crosses a line. How can people so easily give up their rights? How can people trust a President who goes back on his word?
"Obama's problem today is that not only is he forcing the Church to violate her conscience, he dissed the highest prelate in America.
In November, New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, held what he describes as an "extraordinarily friendly" meeting with Obama at the White House.
The president assured the archbishop of his respect for the Church, and the archbishop came away persuaded Obama would never force the Church to adopt any policy that would violate her principles.
And if we go back in time, we see Obama's disdain for Christianity in his own divisive words:
"Then, the future president unloaded on Christians."
“The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have,” he told the Chicago Reader. “But it’s always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility.”
our goverment and congress doesnt even follow all the laws that they make and you want the catholic church to follow the law.
how hypocritical is that?
I think that would make them hypocritical.
Do you suggest that the catholic church ignore these regulations?
All I am saying is, this is the law. Right or wrong, its the current law. And it is no war against religion, its no attack on the catholic church to suggest that they follow the same regulations as every other business does in the United States, when they are operating public businesses.
If you don't like these regulations, and I don't, vote to change them so private owners of public businesses don't have to follow federal guidelines. I'm with you.
But don't say its a war on religion, or an attack on the catholic church, because thats just not true.
This is true and people of ALL faiths are rallying around the issue of forcing Obamacare's rules of requiring Catholics to provide BC and Abortion Pills because it crosses a line. How can people so easily give up their rights? How can people trust a President who goes back on his word?
"Obama's problem today is that not only is he forcing the Church to violate her conscience, he dissed the highest prelate in America.
In November, New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, held what he describes as an "extraordinarily friendly" meeting with Obama at the White House.
The president assured the archbishop of his respect for the Church, and the archbishop came away persuaded Obama would never force the Church to adopt any policy that would violate her principles.
Ten days ago, Obama sandbagged the archbishop
He informed Cardinal-designate Dolan by phone that, with the sole concession of the Church being given an extra year, to August 2013, to comply, the new policy, as set down by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, will be imposed. All social and educational institutions of the Catholic church will offer health insurance covering birth control, or face fines." Obama Sandbags the Archbishop - Yahoo! News
And if we go back in time, we see Obama's disdain for Christianity in his own divisive words:
"Then, the future president unloaded on Christians."
“The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have,” he told the Chicago Reader. “But it’s always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility.”
“The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have,” he told the Chicago Reader. “But it’s always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility.”
All he said is that Christians aren't acting very Christian like, and I think most people who actually understand your religion, understand he is telling the truth.
If you are going to derive income for your business from the federal government, you have to comply with all kinds of ticky dot regulations.
If you don't want to comply, do business with somebody else. And keep your hands out of federal pockets.
It is not hard.
If any church wants to run schools or hospitals or day care or social services, go ahead on. Raise your funding yourselves, decide the population you will be serving and tell the feds to KYA.
If you are going to derive income for your business from the federal government, you have to comply with all kinds of ticky dot regulations.
If you don't want to comply, do business with somebody else. And keep your hands out of federal pockets.
It is not hard.
If any church wants to run schools or hospitals or day care or social services, go ahead on. Raise your funding yourselves, decide the population you will be serving and tell the feds to KYA.
A private business owner, who receives no help from the federal government, still has to comply with many regulations.
This isn't an attack on the Catholic church, its been this way since at least the civil rights bill was passed.
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