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Old 08-29-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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I am with you this. I do think former Emanuel Cleaver is a star. He over came the adversity of being a poor kid in a large family in Texas. They lived in an old chicken house out behind a regular house and slept sideways on the bed so all could sleep on a mattress. The coop had no glass windows either.
I don't know about Mr. Cleaver's life and what he overcame, but I disagree with the idea that he is a rising star within the Democratic party. He is 67 years old.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Lol, I clearly wrote that she won the nomination, just not with very many votes. So why are you asking me a question I already know based on saying she won the nomination? It is odd.

In terms of how hating black conservatives or wanting black people to blah, blah, blah.

All you have to do is look and compare the number of Democratic black elected officials to the number of Republicans. That says all that one needs to say about who thinks who is capable or not.

See the Democratic party nominates and gets elects far far far more black politicians than Republicans.

I know in your mind that means the Democratic party thinks black people are blah, blah, blah, but to sane people nominating and electing people means you don't think very negatively of their racial group.

The Republican party has tokens. There are dozens of black mayors who are Democrats. Some of them are the mayors of some of the largest cites in the nation.
These black elected Democratic mayors received 10's of THOUSANDS of votes not 861 like Mia Love(you do know that Mia isn't her given first name).

And few of them are considered stars. Most are completely unknown despite being mayors of very large American cities.

Let's see there are the mayors of Detroit, Washington DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Columbus, Jacksonville, Memphis, Charlotte, Atlanta, Buffalo, Kansas City, Cleveland, Durham, Richmond, Shreveport, Baton Rogue, Cinncinati, Birmingham, Jackson, Sacramento, Newark, Denver, Alexandria, and many, many more.

With the exception of the Mayor of Newark and maybe Philadelphia, none of these mayors are considered stars. They are completely unremarkable, because there are dozens and dozens of elected black mayors who are Democrats.

The Republicans are so full of fail at fielding and electing black candidates that they are trying to highlight a woman who won an election in a town of 18,000 people because she is black. That is pandering, that is thinking little of black people.

I wish Mia Love all the best.
Nice post. And you make a great point. The GOP has one token black mayor of a town so small most people would have a hard time finding it on a map, but they use her as evidence of a thriving minority presence in their party.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The Dems are playing the race card because they can't talk about Obama's record - it is too depressing.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Where is your proof that it was a reubplican....really, I'm being serious!
It most likely was a republican since they were at a REPUBLICAN convention throwing peanuts at the CNN camerwoman. I'm sure you would believe it was a Democrat if they were throwing peanuts at a FOX NEWS camerawoman at the DEMOCATIC convention.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Lmao. no mention of this story on drudgereport.

Deny the racism
Deny the racism
Deny the racism
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Have you ever worked a political convention? Since 9-11?

Anybody within 1000 feet of that place had to be credentialed by the Republican Party and checked out by the secret service. There are tons of party workers, elected officials, contributors, spouses, and kids of delegates who would love to go to a convention, but can't get in. There ain't no way in hell a pass would be given to a trouble maker from the opposite party.

You can bet the rent money that there was a talking to by each state delegation chairman regarding behavior. TV cameras and reporters outnumber delegates. The delegates all know the whole world is watching.

Google is your friend. There are some great pics of the convention site.
Actually, the originating article is my friend. Note the statement I quoted earlier from the article. Here, I'll post it again:

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The identity of the attendee was not immediately known, and it was not clear whether the person was a delegate or just someone with a ticket to the convention center.
If it was possible to have "just someone with a ticket to the convention center", it means that this particular musical act/event wasn't private.

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Deny the racism
Deny the racism
Deny the racism
What part of the statement or actions do you feel is blatantly racist?

I don't find the guy's actions appropriate in the slightest, but I don't see how it is racism. Did he do it because she was black? Because she was a reporter? Because she was from CNN? Because he was jealous of her looks? Because he was drunk? There's just not enough evidence for me to be swayed in either direction - only that his actions meant that he was justly ejected from the event.

I'm not saying racism doesn't exist. I just don't see it in this situation with the current amount of information released.

What is your take on it?

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Old 08-29-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Dems are playing the race card because they can't talk about Obama's record - it is too depressing.
Tell your people to stop being racist.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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There is racism on both sides, just different. Republicans think(we) minorities are too lazy to work hard and Democrats think we're too stupid to make it without their help.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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There is racism on both sides, just different. Republicans think(we) minorities are too lazy to work hard and Democrats think we're too stupid to make it without their help.

Alfonzo Rachel: Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats - YouTube
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Actually, the originating article is my friend. Note the statement I quoted earlier from the article. Here, I'll post it again:



If it was possible to have "just someone with a ticket to the convention center", it means that this particular musical act/event wasn't private.



What part of the statement or actions do you feel is blatantly racist?

I don't find the guy's actions appropriate in the slightest, but I don't see how it is racism. Did he do it because she was black? Because she was a reporter? Because she was from CNN? Because he was jealous of her looks? Because he was drunk? There's just not enough evidence for me to be swayed in either direction - only that his actions meant that he was justly ejected from the event.

I'm not saying racism doesn't exist. I just don't see it in this situation with the current amount of information released.

What is your take on it?
Calling her an animal. Certain names when sayed to black people are racist. For instance someone on here in another thread called Obama a ghetto goon. They then tried to say it was just a name but I know it was racist.
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