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Old 09-30-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: west mich
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LOL
This is no surprise. I often see thread titles here that are virtually word for word what's coming out of the mouths of the right wing talking heads.
Too funny.
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Same here. It's pretty incredible to see how closely aligned they are to the daily talking points coming from right-wingers. And whatever it's about, there's always a tone of outrage - which then usually disappears by the following day. It's all hot air.
These scripts come down from Rove and Ailes, contributors like lobbyist Grover Norquist, and has been for 30 years - from the birth of G.O.P. TV (now Fox). A power grab of corporate media and Congress with Americans happily shopping as Bush suggested.
These are the guys who get a free pass on the Sunday morning political "discussion" shows - never allowed to be challenged on their lies - rescued by the host. The "stars" of corporate media.
Liberal media? Right...
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Yet the fact that Obama is also wealthy is never brought up!
I'll bring it up.
Obama made himself prosperous - from nothing. Romney was wealthy the day he was born.
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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That figures.
Obviously that statement was to illustrate Romney's rather un-passionate persona. But I would ask him questions about his being a Mormon in a heart beat. You bet. Totally legitimate and nothing John Kennedy wasn't faced with as well.

I'd also ask him why he chose to be a missionary in France instead of serve in the military during Vietnam. I'd ask him if the Mormon church was more important than his country.

And I'd ask him why he protested FOR the draft than choose to become a missionary. "Mr. Romney: When you got your deferment during Vietnam your place in the draft was filled by someone else. That person was probably sent to Vietnam. You went to Paris. How do you feel about that today?"

I have a whole list. And I'd ask them were he a Protestant who chose to be a missionary in Uganda rather than serve in Vietnam. Those questions were asked of Clinton who had a deferment. I say ask them of Romney. There have been national discussions of Cheney's, ********'s and Rumsfeld's deferments. I want to know about Romney's. (I'd also ask him if he thought his Dad's position helped him get it.)

--Now that's interesting. A former Attorney General's name got censored. --

One more thought - Most of America knows about temple garments. If Romney had any sense he'd tackle the issue by being proactive. "Yes. I wear them. It's a sign of my faith. Next question." Instead people make jokes and his supporters get upset. It's always better to put that stuff on the table and deal with it. If it bites him in the butt in the next month he'll have only himself and his advisers to blame.

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Old 09-30-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Every other administration in American history has been held accountable for what happened during their tenure, whether result of something left over from the last administration or not. There was a history preceding all major events that set in motion the circumstances that led to it but the person in power when the crap hit the fan, such as the Buchanan (Civil War) or Hoover (the Depression), was the one held accountable. Why is this administration exempt?
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Every other administration in American history has been held accountable for what happened during their tenure, whether result of something left over from the last administration or not. There was a history preceding all major events that set in motion the circumstances that led to it but the person in power when the crap hit the fan, such as the Buchanan (Civil War) or Hoover (the Depression), was the one held accountable. Why is this administration exempt?
A) Not true - held accountable by whom? This is your own history.
B) Obama is exempt because, in the real world, his adversaries created the problem and are now sabotaging his efforts in order to regain power.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:11 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Obviously that statement was to illustrate Romney's rather un-passionate persona. But I would ask him questions about his being a Mormon in a heart beat. You bet. Totally legitimate and nothing John Kennedy wasn't faced with as well.

I'd also ask him why he chose to be a missionary in France instead of serve in the military during Vietnam. I'd ask him if the Mormon church was more important than his country.

And I'd ask him why he protested FOR the draft than choose to become a missionary. "Mr. Romney: When you got your deferment during Vietnam your place in the draft was filled by someone else. That person was probably sent to Vietnam. You went to Paris. How do you feel about that today?"

I have a whole list. And I'd ask them were he a Protestant who chose to be a missionary in Uganda rather than serve in Vietnam. Those questions were asked of Clinton who had a deferment. I say ask them of Romney. There have been national discussions of Cheney's, ********'s and Rumsfeld's deferments. I want to know about Romney's. (I'd also ask him if he thought his Dad's position helped him get it.)

--Now that's interesting. A former Attorney General's name got censored. --

One more thought - Most of America knows about temple garments. If Romney had any sense he'd tackle the issue by being proactive. "Yes. I wear them. It's a sign of my faith. Next question." Instead people make jokes and his supporters get upset. It's always better to put that stuff on the table and deal with it. If it bites him in the butt in the next month he'll have only himself and his advisers to blame.
What an awesome post!

I wish you were moderating one of the debates.

Legitimate questions, all of them, and ones I'd love to see Willard forced to answer - especially all the questions about him protesting FOR the draft and then high-tailing it to a life of comfort in France and while he rode his bike around the countryside and wrote love letters in the sand to Ann, young men were fighting the war he supported.

How can anyone of good character possibly justify that?
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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A) Not true - held accountable by whom? This is your own history.
B) Obama is exempt because, in the real world, his adversaries created the problem and are now sabotaging his efforts in order to regain power.
LOL The press exist to be watch dogs for the public. When they fail to do so, when they knowingly look the other way or ignore things to protect someone, that is wrong on all levels.

Gee, why have an election then?

Economy- even after 3 1/2 years, the economy is not where Obama said it would be. And even though he himself said if he cant get things on a better track he doesnt deserve a second term. But no matter, its just someone else's fault so Obama shouldnt be held accountable for it

Foreign Policy - We are as hated as ever. Libya terror attack could have been prevented. Admin lied about it. But so what, right? It has to be someone else's fault. Lets just not get too touch on the Admin over this and lets just keep it as quiet as we can and from the public.

Layoff notices - Even though Obama is skirting the law by trying to block layoff notices, lets just keep quiet on that too. After all, it must be someone elses fault

So the excuse is, its just not his fault. So why should he be held accountable for anything....So the answer is to go hard after his rival and treat him as if he were the sitting President instead. Afterall, Obama has enough pressure as is, you know, going on The View and Letterman while skipping out on meeting world leaders. Why should he want to meet with world leaders after a terror attack that killed an Ambassador? He has more important things to worry about like saving his job.

Nothing is Obama's fault. Nothing. That about sums it up. So I guess everyone who is against Obama and his policies might as well just shut up and pack it in. Barack Obama is not liable for anything.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Obviously that statement was to illustrate Romney's rather un-passionate persona. But I would ask him questions about his being a Mormon in a heart beat. You bet. Totally legitimate and nothing John Kennedy wasn't faced with as well.

I'd also ask him why he chose to be a missionary in France instead of serve in the military during Vietnam. I'd ask him if the Mormon church was more important than his country.

And I'd ask him why he protested FOR the draft than choose to become a missionary. "Mr. Romney: When you got your deferment during Vietnam your place in the draft was filled by someone else. That person was probably sent to Vietnam. You went to Paris. How do you feel about that today?"

I have a whole list. And I'd ask them were he a Protestant who chose to be a missionary in Uganda rather than serve in Vietnam. Those questions were asked of Clinton who had a deferment. I say ask them of Romney. There have been national discussions of Cheney's, ********'s and Rumsfeld's deferments. I want to know about Romney's. (I'd also ask him if he thought his Dad's position helped him get it.)

--Now that's interesting. A former Attorney General's name got censored. --

One more thought - Most of America knows about temple garments. If Romney had any sense he'd tackle the issue by being proactive. "Yes. I wear them. It's a sign of my faith. Next question." Instead people make jokes and his supporters get upset. It's always better to put that stuff on the table and deal with it. If it bites him in the butt in the next month he'll have only himself and his advisers to blame.
Again, what number was drawn for Mitt Romneys birthday by the government for the draft? Unless you know what his number was, your information on the draft may not be correct.
Do you also want to see Harry Reids underwear (not underware)? If not, then you have the hots for Romney.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Oh good lord. Blaming the press again? Oh well. I guess Republicans have got to blame someone since they realize Romney is doomed to lose.


The incumbent president who cannot get to a Gallup 52% job approval loses.

Bummer is back to 46%.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

Big surprise.

He'll lose.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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The incumbent president who cannot get to a Gallup 52% job approval loses.

Bummer is back to 46%.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

Big surprise.

He'll lose.
The bigger surprise is that he's only at 46%, even with the media campaigning for him and ignoring big stories. Just imagine if the media actually told the public about him keeping key Fast/Furious figure away from investigators, or the Libya lies, or how he wants to block layoff notices. If they reported on things like that, hed be lucky to hit 40%.
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