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When the two views are communism and freedom, I draw the line.
Oh get a grip.
One of the entertaining aspects of this forum is seeing how many uneducated Americans there are. I bet a lot of people here couldn't even pass a U.S. citizenship test, let alone understand the definition of communism.
Abolition of child labor and a graduated income tax were planks in the Communist Manifesto which were realized approximately 100 years ago. One can debate the wisdom of such laws, but they were constitutionally enacted.
Depending on what your definition of child labor is I'm glad I've developed my work ethic at an early age that is strong to this day and do not need any hand outs from the government at the expense of other hard working tax payers around the country. A lot of kids these days aren't learning that. Also income taxes is what helps pay for a lot of the socialized public programs that the democrats support. If you want communism you are in the minority as most Americans don't believe that government is the answer to everything but the result of the problems we face today. Btw, the original framers never did not write those ideas in the constitution. The original constitution predates the Communist Manifesto.
Depending on what your definition of child labor is I'm glad I've developed my work ethic at an early age that is strong to this day and do not need any hand outs from the government at the expense of other hard working tax payers around the country. A lot of kids these days aren't learning that.
Which is why I stated "One can debate the wisdom..." which you ignored.
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Btw, the original framers never did not write those ideas in the constitution.
They are not in the Constitution at all. They were, however, enacted in accordance with the Constitution.
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The original constitution predates the Communist Manifesto.
Yes, and ?
I stated "the country was founded decades before Karl Marx was born" but you ignored that as well.
How could anyone vote for Obama. Consider the following:
1) Obama LIED to the American people about the Libya attacks. For two weeks, he stated that it was the result of a video, when e-mail confirmations show that the state department knew that it was a coordinated terrorist attack the day of the attack. As Commander in Chief, how could he have not been more involved when requests for help were coming in? Four men lost their lives. This IS impeachable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbwgZIkbxL8
3) Obama is a Marxist, a socialist of the highest order. Some would even argue that he is a communist, considering his communist connections and anti-American platform when it comes to economic and social policy. https://www.city-data.com/forum/elect...u-support.html
4) Obama supports abortion, the murder of unborn children. How could anyone with God in their hearts truly support such an atrocious act? Obama supports abortion for every month of the pregnancy, proving not only is he extreme, he's super extreme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSNGJd3wCes
5) Obama supports homosexuality and the debasement of marriage. Thinking that two men or two women can marry one another is not progressive. It's downright perverse and dumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwmZDUbugdg
6) Obama is the least open president in history, despite what he called for. Why else would he have his records sealed and have paid millions to have them sealed? Obama: Where have all his records gone?
7) Obama could very well be a closet Muslim. Considering his upbringing in Indonesia, an Islamic country, his pandering to Islamic countries, his speaking in Arabic, as well as his own slips of "my Muslim faith", it's fairly obvious that this is not out of the question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY
8) Obama is very well likely not a natural born American citizen, considering that he himself stated that he was born in Kenya, as did his wife, Michelle, stating that Kenya was his home country. Furthermore, Obama had some of his written work published stating that he was born in Kenya, and that he was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. What's more, the electronic birth certificate released, years later, was as fake as they come, showing layers. When it was released and Obama was receiving a lot of flack about it, all of a sudden, surprise, Osama Bin Laden was found to provide a distraction and escape. Never mind the fact that it had been reported that Bin Laden was near death some seven or eight years earlier. This makes him a usurper, not eligible to hold the office of the president of the United States
This is exactly why i'm backing Obama so the candidate representing RWNJ's isnt left to run the country.
Sound of Reason you need a more diverse news source as just listening to Limbaugh gives you a very one sided and one dimensional view of current events.
As for your user name is that meant to be satire or sarcasm?
This is exactly why i'm backing Obama so the candidate representing RWNJ's isnt left to run the country.
Sound of Reason you need a more diverse news source as just listening to Limbaugh gives you a very one sided and one dimensional view of current events.
As for your user name is that meant to be satire or sarcasm?
EXACTLY!
If one reads the post that you quote, it's nothing but rubbish. As today's New York Times endorsement of President Obama stated:
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Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, has gotten this far with a guile that allows him to say whatever he thinks an audience wants to hear. But he has tied himself to the ultraconservative forces that control the Republican Party and embraced their policies, including reckless budget cuts and 30-year-old, discredited trickle-down ideas. Voters may still be confused about Mr. Romney’s true identity, but they know the Republican Party, and a Romney administration would reflect its agenda. Mr. Romney’s choice of Representative Paul Ryan as his running mate says volumes about that.
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Mr. Obama prevented another Great Depression. The economy was cratering when he took office in January 2009. By that June it was growing, and it has been ever since (although at a rate that disappoints everyone), thanks in large part to interventions Mr. Obama championed, like the $840 billion stimulus bill. Republicans say it failed, but it created and preserved 2.5 million jobs and prevented unemployment from reaching 12 percent. Poverty would have been much worse without the billions spent on Medicaid, food stamps and jobless benefits.
Last year, Mr. Obama introduced a jobs plan that included spending on school renovations, repair projects for roads and bridges, aid to states, and more. It was stymied by Republicans. Contrary to Mr. Romney’s claims, Mr. Obama has done good things for small businesses — like pushing through more tax write-offs for new equipment and temporary tax cuts for hiring the unemployed.
The Dodd-Frank financial regulation was an important milestone. It is still a work in progress, but it established the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, initiated reform of the derivatives market, and imposed higher capital requirements for banks. Mr. Romney wants to repeal it.
This is exactly why i'm backing Obama so the candidate representing RWNJ's isnt left to run the country.
Sound of Reason you need a more diverse news source as just listening to Limbaugh gives you a very one sided and one dimensional view of current events.
As for your user name is that meant to be satire or sarcasm?
It depends on what you want to believe. If you believe in bigger government and more taxes on small businesses to pay for it rather than get government out of the way to allow expansion of growth in private sector to create more jobs then sure vote for Obama. Keep in mind that a majority of the work force in this country works for small businesses which are the back bone of our economy not the government. Why take away more money from the companies that create the jobs. You can't squeeze more taxes from a shrinking tax base. How do you increase the tax base? More jobs to increase more revenue for the economy maybe..hello. You can't have more people working if they don't need any government hand outs so you have to cripple the economy by putting more people out of work so they can become more dependent. Makes no sense what so ever. Where's the money going to come from genius? Again most people work for small businesses not government. That where most of the jobs are created. We need Romney who actually has business experience in creating jobs in the private sector where it counts instead of wasting money on more government red tape. The only experience Obama has is the last 4 years creating policies and higher tax burdens on small businesses making it hard for them to create more jobs. Oh yea let's go after the greedy companies so they can lay off more people to become future welfare recipients. You only shoot yourself in the foot. There is no freedom in that.
I've got no problem talking about the differences in political ideology.
For the left collectivism,team effort.
For the right individualism,you're on your own
What Sound of Reason is posting
Isnt political ideology its just an ignorant uninformed rant representing hate and intolerance.
It depends on what you want to believe. If you believe in bigger government and more taxes on small businesses to pay for it rather than get government out of the way to allow expansion of growth in private sector to create more jobs then sure vote for Obama. Keep in mind that a majority of the work force in this country works for small businesses which are the back bone of our economy not the government. Why take away more money from the companies that create the jobs. You can't squeeze more taxes from a shrinking tax base. How do you increase the tax base? More jobs to increase more revenue for the economy maybe..hello. You can't have more people working if they don't need any government hand outs so you have to cripple the economy by putting more people out of work so they can become more dependent. Makes no sense what so ever. Where's the money going to come from genius? Again most people work for small businesses not government. That where most of the jobs are created. We need Romney who actually has business experience in creating jobs in the private sector where it counts instead of wasting money on more government red tape. The only experience Obama has is the last 4 years creating policies and higher tax burdens on small businesses making it hard for them to create more jobs. Oh yea let's go after the greedy companies so they can lay off more people to become future welfare recipients. You only shoot yourself in the foot. There is no freedom in that.
First, Obama hasn't raised taxes on small business, he's cut them.
Second, Obama hasn't increased the size of the government either. Any increase in deficits is caused by lower revenue coupled with increased spending on safety net programs promulgated by the great recession.
Third, the theory that Romney's experience in the private sector has any relation to formulating fiscal and monetary policies is nonsense as President Obama stated:
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When some people question why I would challenge his Bain record, the point I’ve made there in the past is, if you’re a head of a large private equity firm or hedge fund, your job is to make money. It’s not to create jobs. It’s not even to create a successful business – it’s to make sure that you’re maximizing returns for your investor. Now that’s appropriate. That’s part of the American way. That’s part of the system. But that doesn’t necessarily make you qualified to think about the economy as a whole, because as president, my job is to think about the workers. My job is to think about communities, where jobs have been outsourced.
Since Herbert Hoover’s 1928 election, the American people have voted out of office after a single term only three elected presidents: Hoover, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush — all of whom were successful businessmen before they were president. And the only successful business-trained president who was reelected, George W. Bush, oversaw an economic collapse at the end of his second term.
As measured in constant 2005 dollars starting on Jan. 1 of the year after they took office — the economy’s performance in the first year of a presidency is better assigned to the preceding administration — the four presidents with successful business careers had the four worst records in terms of gross domestic product performance.
The only president since Hoover with business experience under whom the economy did well was the one who was unsuccessful in business: Harry Truman, whose haberdashery shop went bankrupt after two years.
The startling bottom line is that the nation’s GDP has grown more than 45 times faster under presidents with little or no business experience than it has under presidents with successful business careers. And on average, when there has been a successful businessman in the Oval Office (so, Truman is excluded), GDP growth has been negligible.
Obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthiest by a whopping 3% -- the same rates that existed under Clinton when the economy boomed and jobs were plentiful.
Romney's solution for America is to cut taxes by 20%, as if the lowest taxes in a century aren't low enough. It's like a doctor prescribing bleeding for low blood pressure. It's not a solution to the current problem -- embracing the failed theory that cutting taxes increases economic activity and government revenue -- a theory disproven by history. Trickle down economics doesn't work but that's what one would expect from someone who defends the interests of the rich.
First, Obama hasn't raised taxes on small business, he's cut them.
Second, Obama hasn't increased the size of the government either. Any increase in deficits is caused by lower revenue coupled with increased spending on safety net programs promulgated by the great recession.
Oh yes he has. Once the Healthcare Bill becomes fully implemented the cost will be past on to these companies and consumers through taxes and fines. Where you've been? Lower revenue...hmm. How do you suppose we increase that revenue? How about the government getting out of the way so that these businesses can grow more jobs thus growing more revenue from the economy. The last thing you want to do is further devaluing the dollar. A strong dollar is a strong economy a weak dollar resulting with more debt is a weak economy. You can't borrow you're way out of debt. Obama and Bush screwed us up.
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Obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthiest by a whopping 3% -- the same rates that existed under Clinton when the economy boomed and jobs were plentiful.
There aren't enough of the wealthiest to cover our national debt. So you punish them so they can ship more company operations over seas laying off more American workers to make up the difference. Brilliant move. The economy boomed under Clinton because the Republicans held the majority in the House after 1994. As soon as the Dems had taken back majority of the House in 2004 our economy started going downhill.
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Romney's solution for America is to cut taxes by 20%, as if the lowest taxes in a century aren't low enough. It's like a doctor prescribing bleeding for low blood pressure. It's not a solution to the current problem -- embracing the failed theory that cutting taxes increases economic activity and government revenue -- a theory disproven by history. Trickle down economics doesn't work but that's what one would expect from someone who defends the interests of the rich.
It's the rich people who own these very same companies that create the jobs that America needs right now. Trickle up poverty doesn't work either by causing more people to be out of work by the government reckless spending further devaluing the dollar and driving up the cost of goods and services. The last thing we need is to make it harder for these business to expand here instead of forcing them to expand else where due to higher taxation and over regulation.
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