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Old 04-04-2016, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Originally Posted by Bureaucat View Post
Only time will tell how accurate ARG polls are in 2016, but in 2012, Five Thirty Eight rated them among the least accurate pollsters.




http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...idential-race/
who cares, all poles are showing a drop from Cruz's ten point lead. It's leading Dexter to outright lie

 
Old 04-04-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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who cares, all poles are showing a drop from Cruz's ten point lead. It's leading Dexter to outright lie
I think he's comfortable lying, as is his candidate of choice.
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Trump is finally getting an idea to dump the special interest groups that painted him into a corner


People call that walking back

I call it about time.
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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Unlike a number of other states where Cruz has won, Trump has spent a lot of time in Wisconsin over the last few days. So it might be a relatively tight race despite the polling showing Cruz being the winner.

I see three possible outcomes.
  • Cruz wins statewide and wins 5 of 8 CDs - Scores 33 Delegates, Trump gets 9. Best possible outcome for Cruz and he lives for another day.
  • Situation turns out like Missouri. Very tight between two campaigns. Fight will be over 18 delegates. This is a bad day for Cruz
  • Trump wins statewide takes at least 4 CDs - Scores 28 Delegates, Cruz gets 12. This would be devastating to the Cruz campaign. The few billionaires backing Cruz, IMO, will start to question how much more money they should pour into this campaign. Cruz has already burned through $91.2B of their money without much to show for it.
I don't predict that Kasich will win any delegates.



Conclusion.



Trump - Nice if he wins Wisconsin but no big deal if he doesn't. The race will be moving to the Acela Corridor where Cruz will be devastated.



Cruz - Wisconsin is his Waterloo. If he can't pull down a big win, especially considering the amount of resources they spent there, then stick him with a fork, he's done.
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by leftee View Post
Since polls mean so much, here's another ...

American Research Group

https://twitter.com/loudobbsnews/sta...91074791976960

So Cruz loses about 15-20 points in a span of days ...
I don't see Trump winning Wisconsin tomorrow. Cruz has the momentum; I'd be surprised if he wins by < 5%.

It will be interesting to see if Cruz can keep it close in the NE or perhaps win some states where he hasn't been polling very well.
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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As Ive said before. Trumpettes only pay attention to and believe polls their messiah is leading in. Every other poll has Cruz leading comfortably. This poll is a joke, thats why its not even listed on RCP
You keep bringing up that word messiah, often. No one thinks of Trump as a messiah (Jesus is my only Messiah). I'm beginning to think since you're so fixated on that word that you must feel Cruz is your messiah .. I bet you've even built an altar to him, with his picture hanging above it and when you're kneeling before it praying to him you're also burning candles and incense (but hopefully you're not making sacrifices to him )
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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I don't see Trump winning Wisconsin tomorrow. Cruz has the momentum; I'd be surprised if he wins by < 5%.

It will be interesting to see if Cruz can keep it close in the NE or perhaps win some states where he hasn't been polling very well.
He's down by 31 points in NY and 18 in PA - IMO, he has no shot regardless of what happens tomorrow.
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Unlike a number of other states where Cruz has won, Trump has spent a lot of time in Wisconsin over the last few days. So it might be a relatively tight race despite the polling showing Cruz being the winner.

I see three possible outcomes.
  • Cruz wins statewide and wins 5 of 8 CDs - Scores 33 Delegates, Trump gets 9. Best possible outcome for Cruz and he lives for another day.
  • Situation turns out like Missouri. Very tight between two campaigns. Fight will be over 18 delegates. This is a bad day for Cruz
  • Trump wins statewide takes at least 4 CDs - Scores 28 Delegates, Cruz gets 12. This would be devastating to the Cruz campaign. The few billionaires backing Cruz, IMO, will start to question how much more money they should pour into this campaign. Cruz has already burned through $91.2B of their money without much to show for it.
I don't predict that Kasich will win any delegates.



Conclusion.



Trump - Nice if he wins Wisconsin but no big deal if he doesn't. The race will be moving to the Acela Corridor where Cruz will be devastated.



Cruz - Wisconsin is his Waterloo. If he can't pull down a big win, especially considering the amount of resources they spent there, then stick him with a fork, he's done.
There it is - let the truth be told.
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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He's down by 31 points in NY and 18 in PA - IMO, he has no shot regardless of what happens tomorrow.
Cruz is very unlikely to get 1,237 by the convention, but that doesn't mean he can't do well enough to prevent Trump from getting there. He may end up performing better than he is in the current polls as he tends to outperform polls (while Trump tends to underperform his poll numbers).
 
Old 04-04-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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Cruz is done
LOL!! Because ONE poll put of 8 shows him losing? Cruz will win rather easily tomorrow
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