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Old 03-02-2016, 09:09 PM
 
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6.Block-grant Medicaid to the states. Nearly every state already offers benefits beyond what is required in the current Medicaid structure. The state governments know their people best and can manage the administration of Medicaid far better without federal overhead. States will have the incentives to seek out and eliminate fraud, waste and abuse to preserve our precious resources.

This is terrible idea $550 Million state and federal aid has been cut towards our statw hospitals
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And that's why costs went up in California. Don't you remember Enron?
Again
Electric goes down when government deregulates and allows competition. If you don't believe me look at the electricity market in Texas.

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Also, electric is EXPENSIVE in Texas, not cheap. It's much cheaper in California.
no it's not. Texas is below the national average while California is higher. Plus it's still coming down while Californias prices are roughly the same compared to 2011.
from 2014 ranked lowest to highest
Texas 17 8.99kwh
California 43 15.23kwh
http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/204.htm

in 2011
Texas 31st lowest 11.3kwh
California 43rd lowest 15.2kwh
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/20...-in-your-state

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Old 03-02-2016, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Oh, I don't know. Get a job, perhaps?


Healthcare is not a right.
You're getting it all wrong. It's "get a job, you long-haired hippy!"
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Get health insurance company profit margins out of healthcare and costs go down. Provide preventative medicine and costs go down.
Get government out of healthcare then costs go down. Allow competition across state lines and costs go down. Government prevents this, why?
Government is in bed with big Pharm. That is the reason medication costs are much higher here.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:12 PM
 
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Healthcare is a right. Do we want to spend the cost of the insured. Single payer tax system is the way to go.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:12 PM
 
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No it doesn't.
Oh, I keep hearing from older people that they love their Medicare . . . but what do I know, I am not there yet. But please do elaborate why it doesn't work.

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As far as Medicaid also the administrative requirements of accepting public insurance, doctors sometimes just don’t want the hassle.
What I was saying is that because of the super low reimbursement rates and compliance and administrative headache, most decent doctors and private hospitals do not accept Medicaid. A municipal hospital is often times your best (only) option with Medicaid. It sucks big time.

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Thank you helping show proof that Single payer doesn't work. Lack of accountability in single payer does that.

Lack of options kills competition. Competition brings down prices and increases efficiency. That's basic business.

Indian Healthcare Services is another single payer that's a joke.
Not following you . . . . I wasn't aware that employer-based private insurance has contained healthcare cost anywhere reasonable over the last few decades. What competition? They engage in quasi-collusion.

Clearly, single payor would have issues, but with so many First World countries having implementing it over many decades ago, the system could work without bankrupting the country. Hence, it is absurd to say NO kind of single payor system would work. Who administers the Indian Healthcare Services? BIA? That's it.

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Old 03-02-2016, 09:13 PM
 
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3.Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system. Businesses are allowed to take these deductions so why wouldn’t Congress allow individuals the same exemptions? As we allow the free market to provide insurance coverage opportunities to companies and individuals, we must also make sure that no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance. We must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it.

How does this change anything? Unless you have a home mortgage or yuge medical or catastrophic losses of some kind, itemizing for health care costs is less than the standard deduction.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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LMAO sure it does. Like the 42 million dollar gas station in Afghanistan that should have cost 1/2 mil? Or when we got Obamacare and costs when up?

Electric goes down when government deregulates and allows competition. If you don't believe me look at the electricity market in Texas.
Agreed. I think we ought to deregulate the military, and allow private companies to provide our defense. The government can't do anything right at all. We could cut out the entire military budget, and cut taxes in half.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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6.Block-grant Medicaid to the states. Nearly every state already offers benefits beyond what is required in the current Medicaid structure. The state governments know their people best and can manage the administration of Medicaid far better without federal overhead. States will have the incentives to seek out and eliminate fraud, waste and abuse to preserve our precious resources.

This is terrible idea $550 Million state and federal aid has been cut towards our statw hospitals
Also, nothing more amusing than hearing that state governmental workers would eliminate fraud, waste and abuse. Have you ever seen a state employee? How about a Federal employee? Who is usually 1,000 times more qualified, competent and conscientious? Yeah.

Mick
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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3.Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system. Businesses are allowed to take these deductions so why wouldn’t Congress allow individuals the same exemptions? As we allow the free market to provide insurance coverage opportunities to companies and individuals, we must also make sure that no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance. We must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it.

How does this change anything? Unless you have a home mortgage or yuge medical or catastrophic losses of some kind, itemizing for health care costs is less than the standard deduction.
I don't know, taking a deduction at a 28% Federal marginal income bracket is a small drop in the bucket, considering the massive cost of health insurance . . . . especially the lower and lower-middle class people. A deduction for people who don't pay income tax (47% per Mitt) is worth $0 to them.

Or is he saying "tax credits" instead of a deduction? Kinda like Obamacare subsidies?

Mick
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