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Old 04-06-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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52 percent did not vote for Cruz. The people of Wisconsin have spoken. Anyone but Cruz. He can't be the nominee.

Cruz has received 27% of votes of all the states that have voted.......that means 73% of the voters in the party did NOT vote for Cruz. He can't be the nominee, LMAO!......see how you apply the same "logic" they try to apply to Trump......not get me started on Kasich, 87% of the voters so far in the party have rejected Kasich.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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then Trump will win the winner takes all of California and New Jersey. Cruz won't make it to 650 delegates by June
In California, it is "winner take all" by Congressional District, which on a state level is really not winner take all at all. There are 53 congressional districts in California, each which will allocate 3 delegates to the winning candidate. There are also 13 at-large delegates, who will vote for the statewide winner, at least on the first ballot.

Here is a link to the details about the California Republican primary, in case you are interested:

California Republican Delegation 2016
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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I'm concerned when Cruz wins WI handily, and that state really doesn't fit him demographically.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Cruz has received 27% of votes of all the states that have voted.......that means 73% of the voters in the party did NOT vote for Cruz. He can't be the nominee, LMAO!......see how you apply the same "logic" they try to apply to Trump......not get me started on Kasich, 87% of the voters so far in the party have rejected Kasich.

I think the problem is, on the Republican side, NO ONE has really captured a majority of R voters no matter how much attention, momentum or money they have. Typically the party begins coalescing around a front runner this late in the game, and it just isn't happening yet.

Even with Trump attracting record numbers of new voters, he still can't seem to crack 50% in any place bigger than a tiny island. And Cruz, despite the fact that the frontrunner is divisive, can't get the anti-Trump folks to really unite behind him either.

The Democrats have a similar issue in that Hillary can't seem to define a positive message about herself and can't gain a toehold with white progressives, younger voters, and blue collar types - even though she can get over 50%. The thing is, she should be easy to beat in the fall but the two Republican frontrunners are both so polarizing that the Republican party is actually toying with blowing what should be an easy shot at the white house.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:57 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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I'm concerned when Cruz wins WI handily, and that state really doesn't fit him demographically.
Don't be concerned as the GOP establishment is entrenched in Wisconsin with Ryan / Walker / Priebus all from there. We're talking 30 delegates, less than Utah.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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Cruz has received 27% of votes of all the states that have voted.......that means 73% of the voters in the party did NOT vote for Cruz. He can't be the nominee, LMAO!......see how you apply the same "logic" they try to apply to Trump......not get me started on Kasich, 87% of the voters so far in the party have rejected Kasich.
Your numbers may be inaccurate. It looks like the percentage for cruz is getting larger with every state now... almost 50% yesterday in Wisconsin, and well over the 27% you are saying, in many states.

It is a bummer about Kasich, since the general population would probably vote for Kasich if he ever got any attention, but nooooo, it is all trump/cruz, all day, every day. Basically, not even 50% of any state has ever voted for trump, so, yeah, the logic about the majority not voting for any of the three still applies.

It also appears that trump's margins are getting smaller and smaller the longer this goes on. He doesn't seem to wear well over time.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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Don't be concerned as the GOP establishment is entrenched in Wisconsin with Ryan / Walker / Priebus all from there. We're talking 30 delegates, less than Utah.
I'm curious... do y'all realize that the 'GOP establishment' includes a yuuuge portion of the GOP voters? Seems like something to be concerned about if you want a GOP candidate to win the election.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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I'm curious... do y'all realize that the 'GOP establishment' includes a yuuuge portion of the GOP voters? Seems like something to be concerned about if you want a GOP candidate to win the election.
Do y'all realize that GOP establishment in this case means those at the top pulling the puppet strings and using Cruz to get Trump ? You know the ones in office now ...

Not concerned at all as a New York landslide coming soon. Or maybe a landfill if you're Mr. Haney ...
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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He did just as well with women as men
Would you mind supporting that assertion with some sort of factual data?
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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Do y'all realize that GOP establishment in this case means those at the top pulling the puppet strings and using Cruz to get Trump ? You know the ones in office now ...

Not concerned at all as a New York landslide coming soon. Or maybe a landfill if you're Mr. Haney ...
That may be what you mean, but the hard reality is that there are a lot of people who call themselves Republicans who actually agree with those at the top. And it's the fact that those people are voters, too, that has kept Trump from not winning majorities in state after state after state.
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