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Old 04-06-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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That may be what you mean, but the hard reality is that there are a lot of people who call themselves Republicans who actually agree with those at the top. And it's the fact that those people are voters, too, that has kept Trump from not winning majorities in state after state after state.
But but but... those people don't seem to matter to trump followers. They don't see them as a potential threat to trump actually getting enough delegates. Yet, the results lately appear to show that actual voters seem to be increasingly turned off by trump and going for someone else.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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That may be what you mean, but the hard reality is that there are a lot of people who call themselves Republicans who actually agree with those at the top. And it's the fact that those people are voters, too, that has kept Trump from not winning majorities in state after state after state.
Hard to get majorities with more than 2 candidates in the race, but Trump did really well in Florida, Massachusetts & Arizona. Projected to do really well in NY and if Kasich would drop out ...

Cruz only got a majority in Utah, an extremely religious conservative Mormon state.

Tough to be Trump when by popular vote the people want you, but the party doesn't.

I'm predicting an Independent run ...
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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But but but... those people don't seem to matter to trump followers. They don't see them as a potential threat to trump actually getting enough delegates. Yet, the results lately appear to show that actual voters seem to be increasingly turned off by trump and going for someone else.
What results ? Utah & Wisconsin ...

Don't make me bring out Youtube "Laughing Man" again ...
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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Do y'all realize that GOP establishment in this case means those at the top pulling the puppet strings and using Cruz to get Trump ? You know the ones in office now ...

Not concerned at all as a New York landslide coming soon. Or maybe a landfill if you're Mr. Haney ...
So, the GOP establishment is somehow pulling puppet strings to get the majority of republicans to vote for someone other than trump? That's an interesting concept.

I'm thinking, with the diminishing results for trump lately, that 'the establishment' won't have to 'steal' the nomination from trump, that the upcoming states will do that for them. He might win a couple, but not by a landslide, and not by the 50% or more that he 'needs'.

I will concede that he might win over 50% for the first time in NY... or it might turn out that NY really doesn't like him as much as he thinks it does. He has a couple of weeks left to either repair the recent damage, or to do even more damage... I suspect he will choose the 'even more damage' path.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Hard to get majorities with more than 2 candidates in the race, but Trump did really well in Florida, Massachusetts & Arizona. Projected to do really well in NY and if Kasich would drop out ...
It actually isn't. It has happened before, plenty of times... especially when it's down to 3.

I do think NY is his best shot to do it though, because that's his home state.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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Tough to be Trump when by popular vote the people want you, but the party doesn't.

I'm predicting an Independent run ...
It appears that the party is the people... and they have yet to vote for trump over 50% in a state.

I'm predicting that trump won't mount an independent campaign if he doesn't get the R nomination - he wouldn't want to throw good money after bad. We'll see who is right on this one!
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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Hard to get majorities with more than 2 candidates in the race, but Trump did really well in Florida, Massachusetts & Arizona. Projected to do really well in NY and if Kasich would drop out ...

Cruz only got a majority in Utah, an extremely religious conservative Mormon state.

Tough to be Trump when by popular vote the people want you, but the party doesn't.

I'm predicting an Independent run ...
Utah dislikes Trump so much they would vote for Hillary over him. It is an extremely conservative state that sees Trump for what he is, a circus clown.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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Utah dislikes Trump so much they would vote for Hillary over him. It is an extremely conservative state that sees Trump for what he is, a circus clown.
The thing about Mormons is that they really don't think any other religion is a 'true' religion... that they voted so heavily for cruz, despite his fundamentalist religion, goes beyond his 'religious' appeal. I agree that they saw through trump, but if the trump followers want to see it as a religious loss, they are welcome to believe that.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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The thing about Mormons is that they really don't think any other religion is a 'true' religion... that they voted so heavily for cruz, despite his fundamentalist religion, goes beyond his 'religious' appeal. I agree that they saw through trump, but if the trump followers want to see it as a religious loss, they are welcome to believe that.
I'm an ex-Mormon who lived in Utah for 8 or 9 years (I can't remember lol) and have many family and friends who are Mormon and live in Utah.

Not one of them like Trump. My super conservative dad was the first to admit he'd rather vote for Hillary than Trump however I've seen more of them admit as much. I don't think it has much to do with religion, the people I've talked to from there didn't like him before Glenn Beck (who isn't as cherished as some think by Mormons) or Romney said anything about him.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:49 PM
 
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So, the GOP establishment is somehow pulling puppet strings to get the majority of republicans to vote for someone other than trump? That's an interesting concept.
If you don't think the RNC & GOP establishment is behind all of the negative Trump publicity and keeping Kasich in the race, dream on ...

Trump stops the gravy train and the pansies don't like it.
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