Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-09-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
37,949 posts, read 17,875,145 times
Reputation: 10371

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioToCO View Post
I subscribe to the idea that "For of those to whom much is given, much is required". Isn't it from Luke, and paraphrased by JFK?

My thinking goes somewhat like this: my husband and I make a lot of money (compared to the average American). We make this money because God/nature gave us certain kind of brain and our parents insured we got some education. Therefore, to us "a lot was given". So, I don't mind giving back more than somebody who was not blessed with inclinations towards a profession that just happens to pay well. I don't think them lazy because they became school teachers, while I became a software engineer.
It wasn't given. You earned it. Your parents paid for your schooling.
Taxation is theft.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-09-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
37,949 posts, read 17,875,145 times
Reputation: 10371
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beach Sportsfan View Post
LOL. Homosexual marriage has not affected me in the least. If they want to get marry let them, if you don't want one don't get one.
I believe there are more important issues in our country that who gets married to who? That's none of my business.
Except it is your business if something is being forced on you when no ones rights have been violated.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
2,468 posts, read 1,919,926 times
Reputation: 1100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheesesteak Cravings View Post
You are conservative born and raised because you were born and raised a conservative.

Live in an urban area for a while and make friends with people outside your demographic, and things may begin to make more sense to you.
Yes most Christians like the OP are raised in a very homogenous environment with an effeminate blue eyed version of Jesus preaching at a place such.as Liberty University. Interacting with "the others" if started early in life broadens ones world view and creates an open mind.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 03:29 PM
 
1,260 posts, read 2,044,897 times
Reputation: 1413
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
It wasn't given. You earned it. Your parents paid for your schooling.
Taxation is theft.
Not everyone can do my job and make my salary. I can't teach history. Somebody (market?) decided that I should be paid twice what history teacher is paid. I don't mind sharing my earnings with history teachers through taxes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Texas
3,251 posts, read 2,554,786 times
Reputation: 3127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
You made this up. How does that affect policy? It's always about policy and the big government tyrannical failed policies of the dems are just that, failures.
How does your environment and demographics affect policy? If you cannot see a correlation between perspective and environment then there isn't much left to say.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 04:01 PM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 28 days ago)
 
11,794 posts, read 5,801,446 times
Reputation: 14221
Quote:
Originally Posted by emm74 View Post
You really think it's impossible to understand that people have a different world view than you? That people whose lives and experiences are different from yours have a different outlook?

I don't understand how Conservatives can be hypocrites who want a government just small enough to fit in a woman's uterus. How they think that it's ok to discriminate against people they don't like and saying that it's ok to not treat those people as fellow citizens entitled to the full benefit and protection of the law.

And I don't understand how people can cherry pick bogus information like saying that children have to learn about other religions about learning about Christianity is wrong. I'm a non-Christian (I'm Jewish) and I can assure you that Christianity is very much the default - it's so pervasive that you don't even have a clue on how much it's forced on people with a different religion or belief system.

The bottom line is that Conservatives tend to mostly be white Christians who are unhappy that other people are no longer accepting the default position that they are entitled to the privilege they've had in our country and that we want true equality for all, regardless of sex, race, gender, religion and any other categories that have been used to oppress others.

Why are you attacking the OP. He was sincere enough and is trying to get others opinions - he's not attacking anyone.

You are characterizing a group of people unfairly - if you've had trouble with a couple that call themselves Conservative - so be it. You are stereotyping people - many of which - are probably conservative on some issues and liberal on others. More than 75% of the voters are like that. You are projecting YOUR opiion on a group and you're being biased.

It's your opinion and yours alone - so go preach elsewhere - you make a great Cruz supporter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 04:21 PM
 
1,720 posts, read 1,305,051 times
Reputation: 1134
While they're far from perfect, Democrats are infinitely better than the alternative. Simple.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 05:32 PM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 28 days ago)
 
11,794 posts, read 5,801,446 times
Reputation: 14221
Quote:
Originally Posted by PanapolicRiddle View Post
While they're far from perfect, Democrats are infinitely better than the alternative. Simple.

Sorry - I'm a registered Democrat and have been for the last 40 yrs - my party is no better or worse than the Republicans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 06:30 PM
 
548 posts, read 1,038,716 times
Reputation: 974
Thank you to those who responded.

I am not 100% against abortion I also believe if someone was raped or there was incest or the baby or mother's life was in danger she should be able to terminate the pregnancy in a reasonable amount of time. Now that being said late term abortions with a healthy baby that is 100% wrong imo.

I don't care if someone is a homosexual or even if they get married. I do have a problem with people dragging others into their life by insisting a business owner make a cake, provide flowers or whatever the hell else. There are plenty of businesses out there that would be more than willing to do those things so for the few that are not because of their own beliefs they should be left alone. In my mind that is just someone looking to make a buck for free off of someone.

I don't believe we should raise minimum wage beyond what the market can handle. No teen-ager needs to make $15. an hour to flip burgers. I totally realize there are many people who work in those jobs who are not teen-agers. But this is a vicious cycle. The minimum age is raised, food goes up, rent goes up, other services go up so then the minimum age then needs to be raised again. No one who is working a low paying job should have to go hungry if they are working a full-time job. My own son often does not have enough to eat once his rent is paid , gas is in his vehicle, and car insurance is paid. He has told me he sometimes walks out of the store with food just so he is not hungry. He of course does not qualify for food stamps because he is a single male. He has no health insurance and does not qualify for Medicaid. I also do not believe he should get a hand out.

I don't believe we should shut down coal mines or stop drilling for oil. My husband works for the RR and once you take away the coal the RR slows down. It doesn't stop and he won't be laid off because he has been there long enough. There are many guys below him that will be let go. These are good paying jobs that for the most part do not require a college degree. We can't all work in offices. Someone needs to work in the convenience stores, retail stores, ect. Once manufacturing started leaving the country it became much harder for those with high school diplomas to make a living for their family's.

I know the 2nd amendment is a huge issue for many. I grew up around guns, my husband is a collector and loves his guns. We are lucky enough to live in a place where he can shoot off our back porch. I do believe we should enforce the laws we have on the books. I also believe not everyone should have a gun. Again I have a son who has a mental health disability. When he lived at home during his teen years he was very volatile. My husband took his guns to his brother's house because we didn't want our son to have access to them. It was a very trying time in our lives. He also will not inherit any of his dad's guns like our other 3 children. We have common sense where as some don't and they choose to stick their heads in the sand.


As for the democratic canidates I don't understand how anyone could like her after Bengazi and the e-mail scandal. She believes she is part of the working class and really she had NO idea what that even means.

Bernie Sanders is much to socialist for me. I don't want to pay any more in taxes and under his plan my household would pay approximately $6500 more a year. We have a hard enough time as it is now. Nothing is free someone has to pay for it. Why should hard working American's pay for something for those who aren't willing to work for what they want.


I am not ignorant of diversity. I am educated and have formed my own opinions over the years. I try hard to look at issues from different points of view which was why I started this post in the first place.

I am a Ted Cruz supporter. I dislike Donald Trump. He is bigoted, crude, and disgusting.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-09-2016, 06:57 PM
 
1,260 posts, read 2,044,897 times
Reputation: 1413
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkiss View Post
Thank you to those who responded.

I am not 100% against abortion I also believe if someone was raped or there was incest or the baby or mother's life was in danger she should be able to terminate the pregnancy in a reasonable amount of time. Now that being said late term abortions with a healthy baby that is 100% wrong imo.

I don't care if someone is a homosexual or even if they get married. I do have a problem with people dragging others into their life by insisting a business owner make a cake, provide flowers or whatever the hell else. There are plenty of businesses out there that would be more than willing to do those things so for the few that are not because of their own beliefs they should be left alone. In my mind that is just someone looking to make a buck for free off of someone.

I don't believe we should raise minimum wage beyond what the market can handle. No teen-ager needs to make $15. an hour to flip burgers. I totally realize there are many people who work in those jobs who are not teen-agers. But this is a vicious cycle. The minimum age is raised, food goes up, rent goes up, other services go up so then the minimum age then needs to be raised again. No one who is working a low paying job should have to go hungry if they are working a full-time job. My own son often does not have enough to eat once his rent is paid , gas is in his vehicle, and car insurance is paid. He has told me he sometimes walks out of the store with food just so he is not hungry. He of course does not qualify for food stamps because he is a single male. He has no health insurance and does not qualify for Medicaid. I also do not believe he should get a hand out.

I don't believe we should shut down coal mines or stop drilling for oil. My husband works for the RR and once you take away the coal the RR slows down. It doesn't stop and he won't be laid off because he has been there long enough. There are many guys below him that will be let go. These are good paying jobs that for the most part do not require a college degree. We can't all work in offices. Someone needs to work in the convenience stores, retail stores, ect. Once manufacturing started leaving the country it became much harder for those with high school diplomas to make a living for their family's.

I know the 2nd amendment is a huge issue for many. I grew up around guns, my husband is a collector and loves his guns. We are lucky enough to live in a place where he can shoot off our back porch. I do believe we should enforce the laws we have on the books. I also believe not everyone should have a gun. Again I have a son who has a mental health disability. When he lived at home during his teen years he was very volatile. My husband took his guns to his brother's house because we didn't want our son to have access to them. It was a very trying time in our lives. He also will not inherit any of his dad's guns like our other 3 children. We have common sense where as some don't and they choose to stick their heads in the sand.


As for the democratic canidates I don't understand how anyone could like her after Bengazi and the e-mail scandal. She believes she is part of the working class and really she had NO idea what that even means.

Bernie Sanders is much to socialist for me. I don't want to pay any more in taxes and under his plan my household would pay approximately $6500 more a year. We have a hard enough time as it is now. Nothing is free someone has to pay for it. Why should hard working American's pay for something for those who aren't willing to work for what they want.


I am not ignorant of diversity. I am educated and have formed my own opinions over the years. I try hard to look at issues from different points of view which was why I started this post in the first place.

I am a Ted Cruz supporter. I dislike Donald Trump. He is bigoted, crude, and disgusting.
Everything you typed here makes sense. I can't say I agree with you on all points, or even on any points, but I can see how someone can hold the views you do. What's more - you can hold these views and be a fine human being, I could potentially be friends with you. Especially, if we have common interests or common goals in mind. However, I hold different views, and feel that liberal platform supports them. Therefore, I'm a registered democrat and will vote for a democrat in the presidential elections. I will probably examine down ticket and vote on a case by case basis, but usually it results with 90% of democrats on the ticket getting my support.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:43 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top