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Yeah, and Moodys has done the same thing since 1980 themselves and they say Clinton will win. There are probably 2 dozen people out there that claim they are alway right. Someone is always going to be wrong though,
That's across the board as well. Either they have modest increases or they are not doing any worse than 2012. Overall Republicans aren't really doing a ton better with ballots. So the idea that Democrats are barely going to show up is quickly going out the window.
Wow. That's potentially significant. That's really going to bear watching.
Couple that with what I posted earlier about the undecided voters, and this is not looking like a good week for Trump. My own analysis of the polling numbers that I've been able to find indicates that Hillary is getting a big bump from undecideds who have not previously expressed a preference. If this is true, and it continues, it represents something much more serious than just the usual back and forth swings between the two candidates.
This would suggest that a substantial number of voters who have been sitting on the sidelines waiting to make a decision are now starting to make up their minds and choose Clinton. They watched the debate, saw the two candidates side by side for an hour and a half, and picked Hillary. If I were one of the grownups on Trump's staff, I would be very concerned about these numbers.
It's interesting that there are no post-debate polls in Ohio. Hopefully some updated numbers out of there soon.
And wow about that NC tweet. I think the governor's race there is going to drive huge turnout and I will not be at all surprised if it does end up flipping blue due to that.
I am a Pennsylvanian and I am focusing on Pennsylvania, and perhaps our neighboring Mid-Atlantic states.
Trump has lost Pennsylvania.
Of course no one - NO ONE ! - ever thought New Jersey, New York, Maryland, Delaware, DC, and Connecticut were places Donald even had a remote chance ... but the Trump campaign thought PA might be in play, just like Romney campaign four years ago ...
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That's not what the polls say. Trump is still in play, and you know it, but nice try anyway.
That is not what the polls say?
That is not what the polls say?
What poll has Trump ahead of Hillary in the state of Pennsylvania?
Prove me wrong! Go ahead and cite a credible source that demonstrates Trump is beating Hillary in the Keystone State.
Trump lost the debate. Hillary has gained in the polls. All fact. Another fact is the polls seem to fluctuate so rapidly because so many people dislike both. They seem to vote for whomever is having the better week at that time. If Hillary has a bad week, the polls will tighten again. Nobody should be calling this race over.
You're right about that. It's going to be a nail-biter til the very end.
It's interesting that there are no post-debate polls in Ohio. Hopefully some updated numbers out of there soon.
And wow about that NC tweet. I think the governor's race there is going to drive huge turnout and I will not be at all surprised if it does end up flipping blue due to that.
Well, you will likely get more polls over the weekend into early next week. But if she is holding a 3-5 point lead then Ohio will tighten as well. Still think he will win Ohio regardless. Question is will this stand or go back to the old tightness in a week or so?
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