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America’s Founders created the Electoral College to prevent the Executive branch from becoming polarized by partisan politics. They despised the Parliamentary system in England, where the majority party filled the ministerial posts, from Prime minister on down, and who executed the laws enacted with bias for their own party.
Since it would be highly unlikely for the voters to be able to meet and examine all candidates for office, the solution was for the local electorate to choose one from among them whose judgment they trusted, to be an Elector in the Electoral College, investigate and examine the candidates, then cast two votes, limited to no more than one from their home state.
The genius of the original E.C. was that the candidate with the most votes would be president, but the next most votes would likely be his rival and his ‘vice’ (pun intended). Thus the V.P. could be the counterbalance to any partisanship or bias in the execution of the laws enacted by Congress, as well as the appointment to executive positions. Sadly, it worked too well and George Washington disliked his V.P., the fiery John Adams, and sought the amendment that made the E.C. vote for a team.
Unfortunately, once the executive was a team, there was nothing to prevent partisanship. Now, the political parties had a ripe plum - executive appointments - to pay off supporters.
It went downhill, after that.
But what would happen if the original recipe was restored, and parties were no longer fielding candidate teams and pledged electors?
● No more national campaigning
● No incessant political ads
● No need for campaign contributions (legal bribery)
● No partisan fighting
● No bar to poor, but suitable candidates
I, for one, would appreciate a return to the original E.C. A president is delegated power to execute the laws enacted by Congress, not be a super legislator nor dictator. He is the highest ranking public servant, chosen to serve the American people - not rule them.
Yeah right. It's the EXACT reason the Electoral College was put in to place. Liberals whining and boohooing about it doesn't change that fact.
None of you had one bit of an issue with it before the election. There were threads on City Data with the liberals GLOATING about how many of the ECV Hillary was going to take. Absolute gloating. So spare me the blubbering about how "unfair" it all is. We heard this same pissing and moaning when it was Gore vs Bush. Liberals need to grab some Kleenex and wipe that cry snot off of their faces, take some deep breaths, run a cold wash cloth over their faces, and accept reality.
Reality: PRESIDENT TRUMP! Feel that in your mouth.....PresidenT. TRUMP!
Well you are right. It is President Trump. But the first time I heard the EC was dumb was in Ms. Bitters class room roughly 59 years ago. And it has gotten no better.
Simply a flaw in the Constitution that is not fixable.
The mistake the founders clearly made was the 75% of the states. 75% of the voters perhaps...but never 75% of the states. The founders were obviously not all that smart or they would not have missed this one. Pretty close to stupid.
You know what's going to happen, right? They are going to pretend this thread doesn't exist, or one or two of them will come along and twist your question every way to next Sunday until it no longer even comes close to discussing the topic at hand.
I'm not petitioning for anything so I guess it's not applicable.
I think the protests(not riots, there have only been a few) are because of his hateful language. I think people have that right as long as they don't assault anyone or damage property.
Here is my take on this. Here in California we had a proposition on the ballot a few years back regarding legalizing same sex marriage. The voters passed the initiative banning same sex marriage. The voters in support of same sex marriage took the matter to court because "Majority Rules" should not silence the minority regarding a questionable case regarding individual rights.
this is a similar case to the EC that individual large states (which are independent governments) will not silence the minority (smaller states).
So now we have democrats crying foul that it should be the popular vote and not the EC that determines the POTUS but didn't respect the democratic process regarding the same sex marriage initiative when the results didn't go their way.
I'm not petitioning for anything so I guess it's not applicable.
I think the protests(not riots, there have only been a few) are because of his hateful language. I think people have that right as long as they don't assault anyone or damage property.
Location: In a rural place where people can't bother me ;)
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Here is my take on this. Here in California we had a proposition on the ballot a few years back regarding legalizing same sex marriage. The voters passed the initiative banning same sex marriage. The voters in support of same sex marriage took the matter to court because "Majority Rules" should not silence the minority regarding a questionable case regarding individual rights.
this is a similar case to the EC that individual large states (which are independent governments) will not silence the minority (smaller states).
So now we have democrats crying foul that it should be the popular vote and not the EC that determines the POTUS but didn't respect the democratic process regarding the same sex marriage initiative when the results didn't go their way.
Hypocritical
Whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander. I'm a Union member in the trades and am going to be non union in a different line of work in the not so distant future because of the first 10 words of my post. My union is far left and it sickens me. The corruption runs deep in my local hall and its disgusting. Nepotism.
Obviously. I believe in rules. If people didn't like this result then they should change the system for future elections but now what is done is done.
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