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Old 12-13-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: SoFlo
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What happened?!

The Left in the U.S. LOVED Russia (and acted as its agents) when it was Communist.

They even gave it a pass when it united with Hitler to invade Poland.

But now they see Russia as a big threat.

They claim Russia rigged the election, favoring Trump.

Actually, the only attempted election rigging that we know of consisted of the following:

1) DNC head Debbie Wassermann-Schultz working with Clinton's campaign to make sure that Bernie wouldn't win the nomination.

2) The current DNC head Donna Brazille feeding debate questions in advance to Hillary when Brazille worked for CNN.

3) Obama's attorney general Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton on an airplane to arrange things so that Hillary would not get indicted.

4) DNC staffers arranging for rent-a-thugs to go and start fights at Trump rallies.

5) The lying liberal mainstream media colluding and coordinating with the Clinton campaign.

************************************

Assuming that the Russians hacked the DNC at all, what they did wasn't election rigging.

Instead, it was REVEALING that the election was BEING rigged -- by the Democrats!
Totally agree. If the Russians leaked info that MAY have swayed election, I am not too thrilled about that. BUT why is this domestic election rigging - and this is rigging not just leaking information that happens to be the truth not a HUGE issue? Far far worse, and I find it hard to imagine some law wasnt broken here by the DNC.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:37 AM
 
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^I know...and to think that Trump and some others in the GOP would call the CIA and Intelligence Community Liars
as opposed to Putin, tells me a whole lot about where their loyalties lie.
Is he calling them liars or is that just more fake news?

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Trump has dismissed the conclusions outright, and the FBI has suggested that the assessment — while possibly accurate — so far lacks definitive evidence necessary, said two U.S. officials who are not authorized to comment publicly.
Just say'n.....you don't hear much about the FBI disagreeing with the CIA..I wonder why?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...nton/95329212/
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Because it's never about ideologies or parties, it's about human beings.

Human beings wage rivalries with human beings, human beings are selfish at the expense of human beings, human beings steal from human beings, human beings hate human beings, human beings go to war with people.


And this is not all of sudden. It's been that way since the year one.


In this particular case, there are some powerful human beings in the United States who are in rivalry for power with powerful human beings in Russia.

They hate each other. It's personal, human being to human being.

Ideologies and all that crap are just smokescreens.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: North America
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I never liked Russia. Some of you need to stop making broad assumptions. People don't fit as neatly into cubes as some people on this board seem to think.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Putin looks out for Russia, not the globalist New World Order. This makes him dangerous to the establishment wings of both parties, not just dems or reps. This also makes him dangerous to the EU which is why he is already being blamed for any possible loss by Merkel in next fall's election.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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There ya go again with that strawman nonsense about the "left". There has not been a "left" in the USA since 1968 and the Weathermen. The vast, vast majority of both Democrats and Republicans are CENTRISTS, and in many respects are apolitical.

Above all else, the centrists are a practical lot. Centrists are what have kept the economic engine of this country going for all the decades after WWII. Centrists have kept the lights on and have kept the wolves at bay. You're right about one thing - most of the centrists recognize Putin for what he is, a dangerous narcissistic thug that would tear Europe apart in a heartbeat if he thought he could get away with it. The Trump supporters that are throwing their allegiance to Russia are playing with fire.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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Because it's never about ideologies or parties, it's about human beings.

Human beings wage rivalries with human beings, human beings are selfish at the expense of human beings, human beings steal from human beings, human beings hate human beings, human beings go to war with people.


And this is not all of sudden. It's been that way since the year one.


In this particular case, there are some powerful human beings in the United States who are in rivalry for power with powerful human beings in Russia.

They hate each other. It's personal, human being to human being.

Ideologies and all that crap are just smokescreens.
You're right about that. Humans try to delude themselves into believing they are somehow superior, but at the end of the day the veneer of civilization is very thin. Politics and philosophy and religion are all ways to keep some sense of order for a while- but a couple of times every millennia the human race does a reset. Maybe we are overdue.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"So all of a sudden the Left hates Russia "

I know, LMAO. And to think, the Communist Party of America endorsed Hillary. The hilarity of the best election EVER continues.
Even more hilarious is that by your logic, the KKK and other white supremacist groups endorsing Trump means that the Right are racists.
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Old 12-13-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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Even more hilarious is that by your logic, the KKK and other white supremacist groups endorsing Trump means that the Right are racists.

SO, you have nothing, noted.....
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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What happened?!

The Left in the U.S. LOVED Russia (and acted as its agents) when it was Communist.

They even gave it a pass when it united with Hitler to invade Poland.

But now they see Russia as a big threat.

They claim Russia rigged the election, favoring Trump.

Actually, the only attempted election rigging that we know of consisted of the following:

1) DNC head Debbie Wassermann-Schultz working with Clinton's campaign to make sure that Bernie wouldn't win the nomination.

2) The current DNC head Donna Brazille feeding debate questions in advance to Hillary when Brazille worked for CNN.

3) Obama's attorney general Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton on an airplane to arrange things so that Hillary would not get indicted.

4) DNC staffers arranging for rent-a-thugs to go and start fights at Trump rallies.

5) The lying liberal mainstream media colluding and coordinating with the Clinton campaign.

************************************

Assuming that the Russians hacked the DNC at all, what they did wasn't election rigging.

Instead, it was REVEALING that the election was BEING rigged -- by the Democrats!




Hillary already got her Russia money.
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