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Originally Posted by nmnita
Hate to mention this cause obviously you don't want to hear it, but this far out is only 5 months. That is not a long time out. As for larger Dem turnout you are talking primaries where many Republicans are either running unopposed or in districts that are pretty solid in their favor. Nov will be a completely different story. Of course things could be different if something dramatic were to happen on either side. And bad news works both ways.
Both sides have actually had House primaries where turnout was up.the other side being unopposed has nothing to do with dem turnout though,so not sure your argument unless you are making a "we cant compare" argument.
Anyone who likes Trump's policies needs to vote Republican, even if you aren't and hate the candidates. Hold your nose and vote! This is much too important an election.
Between now and November it will be interesting to see what changes in the polls as a result of all the revelations about the Obama administration weaponizing the FBI, CIA, DoJ to spy on an opposition candidate like they do in Russia and police states. Depends on how many indictments are issued, if Obama was clearly involve and if the entire Mueller witch hunt is tossed out or ends.
Start watching Fox News, especially Hannity, because they broke this story over a year ago while mainstream media ignored or censored it. More exciting than any spy novel or movie but dangerous to our republic.
I agree with that. That's why its a good idea to veer towards the center and focus on issues that have majority support among the American people, like Medicare for all, strengthening of unions and much higher minimum wage. Run as New Deal democrats.
That will flat-line the economy, just like FDR did for 7 long years. Voters won't go for that.
"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."
In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933."
Only 25-32T over 10 years? Sold! Let's do the math, shall we?
25-32T divided by 10 years = 2.5T to 3.2T per year
2.5T to 3.2T divided by 325M Americans = 7692 to 9846 per person?
The sad thing to admit... that's a steal. Very first search result I saw for "how much do Americans spend for healthcare" and it says we collectively pay 3.4T per year. And that's before we even factor in the costs paid by Medicare and the average American to fund the overhead costs for the insurance company (aka profit). About 15% of the cost of healthcare goes to the insurance companies.
So that's 15% right off the top of those numbers I already gave. Making it more like 6500 to 8400 per person and more like 2.1T to 2.7T per year. And that's also before a single payer system could set the price points for services.
I appreciate you throwing out big numbers as if it would prove your point, but thanks for disproving your point all by yourself.
So... Your solution is to charge each person $8,000-$10,000/year for health care? That would be a $40,000 annual health care bill for a family of 4 (2 parents, 2 kids or 1 parent, 3 kids).
and even that platform is likely not going to work, as most people realize it is unlikely anyone could begin to get medicare for everyone to become reality. $15 min wage, that could happen: strengthening union very unlikely.
It'll never happen. Even the left-wing think tank the Urban Institute admitted it would take an additional $3.2 trillion/year for ten years to fund Medicare for all. And as a another poster pointed out, that's a cost of $8,000-$10,000/year per person for health care. That would be a $40,000 annual health care bill for a family of 4 (2 parents, 2 kids or 1 parent, 3 kids).
The Democrats have a choice. Either run on a platform of Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage, massively strengthen unions and affordable child care and college or run on a platform of "anti-Trump". Focus on the issues.
hmmm... whats the democrats platform again???
increase government? Spend more? Increase taxes? amnesty for illegals? import third world muslims? ignore immigration laws?regulations that kill business? late term abortions ?
You would have to be clinically insane to vote anything they stand for.
increase government? Spend more? Increase taxes? amnesty for illegals? import third world muslims? ignore immigration laws?regulations that kill business? late term abortions ?
You would have to be clinically insane to vote anything they stand for.
New Deal Democrats stand for run-of the mill popular policies like strengthening unions and labor rights, Medicare-for-all, eliminating for-profit prisons, tuition free college, affordable child care/pre-school, cuts in military spending, public funding of elections and boosting SS, SSDI and SSI.
and even that platform is likely not going to work, as most people realize it is unlikely anyone could begin to get medicare for everyone to become reality. $15 min wage, that could happen: strengthening union very unlikely.
Not true, it has broad based support among the American people unlike denying Medicare the right to negotiate drug pricing, which only 5-10% of the American people support. The question is whether we have the guts to take on the corrupt vested interests.
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