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Old 11-08-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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If you agree or disagree with someone’s policies, then vote accordingly, based on their job performance or proposed policies.

Straight party voting based on a “wave” will indiscriminately remove both the competent as well as the incompetent. How productive is that in the long run?

 
Old 11-08-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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According to some posters here Trump has a near 100% approval rating and the country at large is so enamored with him that they'll go along with anything he does. Tuesday night proved that is not only a fantasy but an outright lie. The conservative angst on this board alone makes this victory all the more sweet. But you can go right along with your denial if it makes you feel better. We no longer care.
OMG,where do some of you get your ideas and what about reading skills> there is no one and I mean no one that would deny Trump does not have a truly high approval rating. Is it coming up? Sure, if you take time to pay attention, but it is not high and where do you get the stupid idea everyone who is a Republican has a favorable opinion about him or believe his every word? The point simply is: overall it was not a bad election for either side. Why is that so hard for you to understand or accept. Republicans lost the house as expected and gained Senate seats that was not particularly expected.

If there was one surprise or a slight surprise it was the dems picking up 6 governorships.
 
Old 11-08-2018, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Democrats will pick up about 37 seats when the counting is complete in all areas. That number is the most the Democratic party has picked up in an election since 1974 - after Watergate!
 
Old 11-08-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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If you agree or disagree with someone’s policies, then vote accordingly, based on their job performance or proposed policies.

Straight party voting based on a “wave” will indiscriminately remove both the competent as well as the incompetent. How productive is that in the long run?
You'll get no argument from me here.

However, people are tribal. Always have been, always will be.
This is absolutely no different than what happened in 2010 with the TEA Party sweep.
Millions thought that voting out competent members of the other party, or even the same party if they were viewed as too conciliatory to the other party, was the right thing to do because there was a message to be sent.

What's good for the goose and all that...
 
Old 11-08-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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The number of Democrat Senate seats up for election this year along with where they were located was a big problem for the Dems. Many of these states voted for Trump in 2016 and his campaigning there again probably helped the GOP candidates.

While Republicans did well with the Senate, they lost EVERYWHERE else. In the House, where ALL seats were up, the Democrats won big flipping many seats. The Democrats picked up more governorships, hundreds more state legislative seats, control over more state legislature chambers, and more state attorney generals (now hold a majority of states).
 
Old 11-08-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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Harris county Texas went blue, totally. One of the judges mentioned needed to go. We have a lot of kids in jail on minor charges because they cannot post bail. Our private prison are full. The county jail is the largest mental health facility in the state.

Of interest to me was the election of a Democrat as the county judge, of the commissioner's court. Unincorporated Harris county
would be the 5th largest city in the country if the law allowed it to incorporate. We have not had a Democratic majority on the 5 member court in my long memory, since the 70's. No finding their pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. County commissioners get rich quick from knowing where the goods deals are. ;-}

If the 27 year old woman from Columbia is able to say no to real estate developers, life in Harris county will be forever change.

Especially for those long time homeowners who are flooded due to new development.

Beto had really long coattails for Texas.
 
Old 11-08-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Did you notice the Governors races? DEM FAILURE

Smallest mid-term gain by opposition party in any modern mid-term election cycle DEM FAILURE

Attempted Judge Kavanaugh smear DEM FAILURE (every Senator who voted no to Kav lost)

Kavanauh, Gorsuch and soon to be a replacement for 85 yr old Ginsberg DEM FAILURE

ZERO Russian collusion DEM FAILURE

Obama legacy destroyed w/ Unaffordable Healthcare Act dismantled DEM FAILURE

Obama legacy destroyed part B (not 1 candidate he stumped for won) DEM FAILURE

Obama great recession economy vs Trump's record setting economy DEM FAILURE

No Dem candidates wanted Hillary campaigning out in public with them DEM FAILURE

$70,000,000 spent on Beto who lost EXPENSIVE DEM FAILURE

Socialism overtaking the Democrat Party DEM FAILURE

Illinois bankrupt & murder capital of the USA DEM FAILURE

Yeah...I understand what failure actually is FAILURE = DEMOCRAT
Many of these are just plain incorrect.

I could create a same list about REPUBLICAN FAILURE too.

Poorest states = Republican Failure
Least educated states = Republican Failure
States with highest usage of meth = Republican Failure
Tariffs = Republican Failure
Trickle Down Economics = Republican Failure
Trump's big mouth = Republican Failure
 
Old 11-08-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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To you they over performed; according to the past few mid term elections they way under performed. You ot right along and enjoy your feeling of over versus under it makes you feel better.
Demcorats currently have a 7 point edge in the national vote, thats not including California, whos final vote we wont have till late november or early december.

Thats a larger popular vote margin than Republicans in 2010.

Your definition of success is the number of seats compared to certain years without ever taking into account how the seats themselves are drawn or the fact that Democrats were never in the hole Republicans were in.

I get that you support republicans, but what is the point of not having an honest conversation ?
 
Old 11-08-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Demcorats currently have a 7 point edge in the national vote, thats not including California, whos final vote we wont have till late november or early december.

Thats a larger popular vote margin than Republicans in 2010.

Your definition of success is the number of seats compared to certain years without ever taking into account how the seats themselves are drawn or the fact that Democrats were never in the hole Republicans were in.

I get that you support republicans, but what is the point of not having an honest conversation ?
Honest conversations are fine, this is just simply a matter of opinion and I happen to have the mind set that pretty much says there were no losers (partywise) on Nov 6th this year. It was a mid win for both sides. Is that to hard to admit and understand?
 
Old 11-08-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Honest conversations are fine, this is just simply a matter of opinion and I happen to have the mind set that pretty much says there were no losers (partywise) on Nov 6th this year. It was a mid win for both sides. Is that to hard to admit and understand?
Picking up the most seats in the House the party has picked up in a midterm since Nixon, and the 3rd most either party has picked up since that time I would certainly consider a win.
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