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Old 01-29-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Maybe Schultz figures he can't win as a Democrat because the DNC will rig the primary for Hillary again. I hear she is thinking about coming up to bat a third time.
I agree, they will rig for somebody, not him, that’s why it’s best to run as independent. He knows how corrupt the Democratic Party is. He is no dummy.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Schultz represents what Democrats used to be before they became obsessed with identity politics and far left causes. He would be the centrist breath of fresh air that this country needs. Democrats should be flocking towards him rather than pushing him away.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:14 PM
 
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It sounds like its personal for him trying to spare himself from the wealth tax that some of the Dem candidates are proposing.
Mindless meme on the internet. Tell that to the yellow vests in France, no more wealthy folks to tax.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Expected, but not really wanted. It seemed to make sense. I also thought he would be more viable as an independent that Shultz.

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Which totally explains his sour grapes.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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Schultz represents what Democrats used to be before they became obsessed with identity politics and far left causes. He would be the centrist breath of fresh air that this country needs. Democrats should be flocking towards him rather than pushing him away.
Exactly when was it that Democrats supported cutting Social Security and Medicare? Please be specific.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:31 PM
 
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It's a whole bunch of things beyond that (but includes that.) They have no concept of economics. They think they can just wave a magic wand and solve all the problems, at least those of the groups they think are worthy, and screw the ones they think aren't.

They don't understand the reasons the various problems developed, what it will take to solve them, if they even can be solved without creating even bigger problems. But that goes to policy issues.

From a political standpoint, they're going full retard because the majority of Americans aren't socialist and don't want socialist policies (if they did the Hildabeast would be president.)

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What exactly is "retarded" about wanting to see that everyone can afford health care when needed?
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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Bloomberg has already said he would not run independent because his research shows that would help Trump. In 2016 he held that card only to use it if Sanders were nominated. Ironically that might have been his one chance.


I think a lot of CEOs and entrepreneurs were shocked that Trump (who they do not respect) actually won. I think many questioned 'why not me?' since they had been much more successful in business. But lack of respect for Trump does not translate into being a more viable candidate for President.


In '96 Clinton would have won regardless of Perot. He was barely shy of 50 percent- 49 point something. Without Perot he probably could have squeezed that extra couple of tenths- but he also would have won since he had a clear plurality and carried the states that gave him a better Electoral College position. Bush won 2000 and Trump 2016 with less support.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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It's a whole bunch of things beyond that (but includes that.) They have no concept of economics. They think they can just wave a magic wand and solve all the problems, at least those of the groups they think are worthy, and screw the ones they think aren't.

They don't understand the reasons the various problems developed, what it will take to solve them, if they even can be solved without creating even bigger problems. But that goes to policy issues.

From a political standpoint, they're going full retard because the majority of Americans aren't socialist and don't want socialist policies (if they did the Hildabeast would be president.)
I don't believe you explained why it's retarded to want everyone to be able to see a doctor when they need to.

A single mother of two working as a waitress feels a lump in her breast. She has to choose between bills and seeing a doctor. What exactly is "retarded" about not wanting that to be a choice for so many?
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Bloomberg has already said he would not run independent because his research shows that would help Trump. In 2016 he held that card only to use it if Sanders were nominated. Ironically that might have been his one chance.


I think a lot of CEOs and entrepreneurs were shocked that Trump (who they do not respect) actually won. I think many questioned 'why not me?' since they had been much more successful in business. But lack of respect for Trump does not translate into being a more viable candidate for President.


In '96 Clinton would have won regardless of Perot. He was barely shy of 50 percent- 49 point something. Without Perot he probably could have squeezed that extra couple of tenths- but he also would have won since he had a clear plurality and carried the states that gave him a better Electoral College position. Bush won 2000 and Trump 2016 with less support.
Bloomberg might be the one person that I would less like to see as president when compared to Trump and Hillary. If by some sad happenstance Bloomberg won the (D) nomination, I would seriously have to consider voting for Trump.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Schultz represents what Democrats used to be before they became obsessed with identity politics and far left causes. He would be the centrist breath of fresh air that this country needs. Democrats should be flocking towards him rather than pushing him away.
My first impression was that he seems like an intelligent, decent human being with what is often missing in this WH--common sense.

He also sounded very unemotional, calm, and methodical, with a sense of humor.

Both Republicans and Democrats should be prepared--there are going to be independents running. So get used to it. Hopefully they will not be as dumb as Jill Stein or as paranoid as Perot.

We really need more than two parties anyhow. This system is not working at all. There has been too much minority rule. When only 30% of the country is represented by the admin, that is a problem, and the result will be some sort of a revolution. Minority rule does not work.
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