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Old 01-29-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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The main question is, why isn’t he running as a Democrat? I agree with him on some things, he’s Pro-Choice, LGBT friendly, was really fair to his Starbucks employees with salary and healthcare, but running as an independent will re-elect Trump without a doubt!
Yes!

Run, Howard, Run!!
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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What makes Schultz more liberal than Perot?
Perot was an anti NAFTA, anti globalist for one thing. He was Trump before Trump in some regards. I can't remember all of his positions after all of these years but he was a balanced budget, pay down the debt kind of a guy which is the one thing that caught my attention with Howard Schultz.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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White men need to realize that they are completely welcome in the Democratic Party. The far-right has been telling so many lies for so long that people started to believe it!
You might believe that, but people are not stupid as you seem to make them out to be. Especially those who can see how identity politics looks to serve everyone's special group except white males.
Whether it be support for quotas, anti-police stances, attacks on anything white men say as _____ist, ______phobe, etc., means they must be ruined.
Yet anyone (typically Democrats) can say white men are the problem in this country, and they are not excoriated for it.
The list goes on, but you are too partisan to see it.

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Old 01-29-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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Perot was an anti NAFTA, anti globalist for one thing. He was Trump before Trump in some regards. I can't remember all of his positions after all of these years but he was a balanced budget, pay down the debt kind of a guy which is the one thing that caught my attention with Howard Schultz.
Right, Perot and Schultz is on the same page here so he doesn't seem so liberal to me. That's not exactly a liberal issue.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I am going to say something completely outrageous (which I never do) I will actually consider voting for him. I’ve never voted independent before in my life (I’m still young though), but after hearing what he has to say, he seems like a smart guy who could actually get votes from both parties and possibly win. He’d better win though if he runs, we can’t take four more years of Trump!
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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We need to get Trump out of office ASAP, and definitely don’t need another independent spoiler running like Ralph Nader or someone like Gary Johnson! Independents, please stop running for President! You are hurting everyone!!
Party politics needs to come to an end. You should have learned this from the last election. There should be more than two parties or else it's just a team sport, and the leader of the country shouldn't just be a popular sports figure, they should also be competent and do what the people of this nation want/need. Not everything fits in two parties.

Watching the lengths each major party goes to get votes, it's obviously not working for the people of this country. It's getting ugly. It needs to end. It'a furthering a divide we might not be able to withstand.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:23 PM
 
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Trump didn't win PA because people switched to him.

Someone from Philadelphia was basically laughing at me when I said Trump may win driven by the votes in my area. I'm the one laughing now and I'd suggest you should not try and tell me about the politics of the state and area I live in.



Trumps win in PA can be directly attributed my area. Democrats have dominated the political scene here for more than a century. Just a decade ago they had a 2:1 margin in registrations. Obama won easily in 2008 and did quite well in 2012. Republican registrations are up substantially and Trump flipped many Democrats, this is not a trend that is slowing. The difference in the margins comparing Trump to Obama in this area accounts for nearly all of Trumps margin over Clinton statewide.



A far left candidate is going to have even less appeal than Clinton in this area for Democrats. A Kamala Harris will go over like a lead balloon. Shultz may take votes from Trump but he'll take more from Democrats.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:26 PM
 
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We need to get Trump out of office ASAP, and definitely don’t need another independent spoiler running like Ralph Nader or someone like Gary Johnson! Independents, please stop running for President! You are hurting everyone!!
He is trying to help the Dems and bring back some sanity. The Dems need to stop lying to people and making promises they can't and won't keep. The guy is a breath of fresh air and he will be savaged for it by the radical left.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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Someone from Philadelphia was basically laughing at me when I said Trump may win driven by the votes in my area. I'm the one laughing now and I'd suggest you should not try and tell me about the politics of the state and area I live in.
I said that Trump might win Pennsylvania months before the election. There was a thread here where 2-3 of us argued that. The argument was exactly what happened. I said she was likely to lose most of PA over her coal position and that she would need a huge turn out in Philly to overcome that. There wasn't and she lost.


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A far left candidate is going to have even less appeal than Clinton in this area for Democrats. A Kamala Harris will go over like a lead balloon. Shultz may take votes from Trump but he'll take more from Democrats.
I've asked this over and over and there has been no answers. What positions does Schultz hold that would attract Democrats?
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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He is trying to help the Dems and bring back some sanity. The Dems need to stop lying to people and making promises they can't and won't keep.
Like making Mexico pay for the wall?
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