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Old 09-18-2008, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I think the kid should be prosecuted if he did it. I don't have the right to enter someone's house just because the door is unlocked.

With that said, there are some serious concerns about the information that may be contained in her private email account concerning government business. At a minimum it shows a SERIOUS lack of judgment and possible criminal behavior depending on what's there (from what I understand not all the emails have been made public).

As to the FBI hiring criminals...... Frank Abagnale

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In 1974, after he had served less than five years, the United States federal government released him on condition that he would help the federal authorities without pay against crimes committed by fraud and scam artists.[3] Not wanting to return to his family in New York, he left the choice of parole up to the court, and it was decided that he would be paroled in Texas.
After his release Abagnale tried several jobs, including cook, grocer and movie projectionist, but he was fired from most of these upon having his criminal career discovered via background checks and not informing his employers that he was a former convict. Finding them unsatisfying, he approached a bank with an offer. He explained to the bank what he had done, and offered to speak to the bank's staff and show various tricks that "paperhangers" use to defraud banks.
That same year, Abagnale made an offer to the bank that if they did not find his speech helpful, they owed him nothing; otherwise, they owed him $500 and would spread his name to other banks. Naturally, they were very impressed, and he began a legitimate life as a security consultant.
He later founded Abagnale & Associates,[5] which advises the business world on fraud. Through this system, he raised enough money to pay back all those he scammed over his criminal career. Abagnale is now a millionaire through his legal fraud detection and avoidance consulting business based in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Abagnale also continues to advise the FBI, with whom he has associated for over 30 years, by teaching at the FBI Academy and lecturing for FBI field offices throughout the country. He lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma with his wife, whom he married one year after becoming legitimate. They have three sons, one of whom is a lawyer.
Frank Abagnale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:09 PM
 
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he's a computer hacker. prosecute him.
Your priorities are, like, way out there dude, you know?
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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he's a computer hacker. prosecute him.
What law did he break? Please cite the specific federal law, please.
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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Whatever legal consequences await this guy are fine with me. He's not running for anything, though.
I question McCain's judgement that he would pick such a corrupt politician for his running mate. She's obviously trying to circumvent laws herself about subpoenaed email. What did she have to hide? I'm just sorry the kid didn't get to her Gmail.
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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20 is an adult in the eyes of the law. Funny how you are all covering for him, saying it's just a kid's prank. If the shoe were on the other foot and it was a 20-year-old son of a Republican who hacked Obama's or Biden's email, you'd be screaming for them to throw the book at him.

I hope he is punished to the full extent of the law. I don't know where you guys are, but around here they make sure kids know that certain things are not seen as "kids' pranks" and they WILL be prosecuted as adults.
First of all that kid was apolitical. Second of all, anyone of any political bent would be absolutely right to bring this to light - it's a form of whistleblowing.

This woman was doing government business on an insecure platform and that's outrageous. It's like in her head she's still working on the Wasilla city council.

Do you ever look at your event viewer files in Windows (or whatever OS) and see the traffic that's constantly looking for your security vulnerabilities? You could easily be hacked I'll bet. I dont know what this kid did but there are several ways to get in if you're not well-protected, and Yahoo Mail is not protected anywhere near as well as a government intranet would be, and she absolutely deserved to be busted.

She was irresponsible, unprofessional, and disrespectful of her office.

So, that's okay with you then?
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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I must say, of the crimes of 1) guessing Palin's password or 2) Palin using yahoo and a stupid password reminder question (where in the middle of nowhere did I meet my husband that I refer to in my own speeches), I find #2 to be more heinous.

I hope the FBI offers this bright young person a job. As for Palin, hmm...not so bright. Thanks, but no thanks.
Apparently he's not all that bright. See link for more information. For one you see he can't spell Caucasian. For another, he was stupid enough to leave an easy trail to follow to find his identity. MORON. I hope he's arrested and charged. Skirts, Not Pantsuits - Palin for VP: And the hacker is...
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:12 PM
 
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Your priorities are, like, way out there dude, you know?
No, what I know is that if this were a Republican kid hacking Obama's email, you'd be calling for his head on a platter. And you know it's true.
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Apparently he's not all that bright. See link for more information. For one you see he can't spell Caucasian. For another, he was stupid enough to leave an easy trail to follow to find his identity. MORON. I hope he's arrested and charged. Skirts, Not Pantsuits - Palin for VP: And the hacker is...
Wow a 'moron' was able to 'hack' into Palin's email... what does that make Palin?
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You are kidding, right?
FBI calls for hacker help - CNET News
"The FBI's call for help confirms that it is not equipped to deal with cybercrime, said Tom Thomas, a security consultant from California who is attending Black Hat.
"It is not reassuring," Thomas said. "It confirms what we already suspect. There is great technical inadequacy, if not downright ineptness, at the FBI. Therefore they are, perhaps desperately, seeking help from almost anyone."
Uh, hello, there are specialists who are trained in hacking techniques and are employed by security companies and others to keep systems safe. They're NOT CRIMINALS.

From your article:
"Black Hat draws an increasing number of attendees from law enforcement agencies. This year, Larkin estimated, one in 10 attendees might represent federal agencies, he said. "Be nice to them. They are here to help you; they are here to team up," he said."
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:13 PM
 
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Apparently he's not all that bright. See link for more information. For one you see he can't spell Caucasian. For another, he was stupid enough to leave an easy trail to follow to find his identity. MORON. I hope he's arrested and charged. Skirts, Not Pantsuits - Palin for VP: And the hacker is...
Can't spell? So he's a Republican?
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