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Old 09-18-2008, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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As to the FBI hiring criminals...... Frank Abagnale

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In 1974, after he had served less than five years, the United States federal government released him on condition that he would help the federal authorities without pay against crimes committed by fraud and scam artists.[3] Not wanting to return to his family in New York, he left the choice of parole up to the court, and it was decided that he would be paroled in Texas.
After his release Abagnale tried several jobs, including cook, grocer and movie projectionist, but he was fired from most of these upon having his criminal career discovered via background checks and not informing his employers that he was a former convict. Finding them unsatisfying, he approached a bank with an offer. He explained to the bank what he had done, and offered to speak to the bank's staff and show various tricks that "paperhangers" use to defraud banks.
That same year, Abagnale made an offer to the bank that if they did not find his speech helpful, they owed him nothing; otherwise, they owed him $500 and would spread his name to other banks. Naturally, they were very impressed, and he began a legitimate life as a security consultant.
He later founded Abagnale & Associates,[5] which advises the business world on fraud. Through this system, he raised enough money to pay back all those he scammed over his criminal career. Abagnale is now a millionaire through his legal fraud detection and avoidance consulting business based in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Abagnale also continues to advise the FBI, with whom he has associated for over 30 years, by teaching at the FBI Academy and lecturing for FBI field offices throughout the country. He lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma with his wife, whom he married one year after becoming legitimate. They have three sons, one of whom is a lawyer.
Frank Abagnale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:14 PM
 
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Read his blog. The kid is not too bright. Can't spell at all. Apocoliptic visions
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:15 PM
 
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Uh, hello, there are specialists who are trained in hacking techniques and are employed by security companies and others to keep systems safe. They're NOT CRIMINALS.

From your article:
"Black Hat draws an increasing number of attendees from law enforcement agencies. This year, Larkin estimated, one in 10 attendees might represent federal agencies, he said. "Be nice to them. They are here to help you; they are here to team up," he said."
Uh huh, and? Are you trying to prove my point? Why, thank you. Teaming up. That's what it's all about. 1 cop to 9 hackers. Finally, you get my point
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Reality
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No, what I know is that if this were a Republican kid hacking Obama's email, you'd be calling for his head on a platter. And you know it's true.
Given that Obama is not an idiot like Palin, if Obama's email was hacked, it would have to be via a trojan or by brute force both which are highly malicious attacks.

"guessing/resetting password" to gain access to an account is laughable by hacking standards.
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Again, what law has he broken?
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:17 PM
 
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Can't spell? So he's a Republican?
I don't think you want to go there. I've been sitting on my hands/biting my tongue looking at the posts on this site by Dems all day today. And I'd say this kid is like his father - Democrat.
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It amazes me that Obamaphiles are excusing a HACKER just to score political points. And they wonder why we really don't want people like them near us?????

My Paypal account was hacked and some jackass in Europe opened a Skype account through it. Yeah, I got the charges lifted and I ditched my Paypal account but hacking is NOT amusing or excusable. Well, for rational people, anyway.
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:18 PM
 
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Read his blog. The kid is not too bright. Can't spell at all. Apocoliptic visions
The posts are from 2003, which would make him...15 at the time? Not too bad for a 15 year old, and a heck of a lot more coherent than some posters here...
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:19 PM
 
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Given that Obama is not an idiot like Palin, if Obama's email was hacked, it would have to be via a trojan or by brute force both which are highly malicious attacks.

"guessing/resetting password" to gain access to an account is laughable by hacking standards.
You have no idea what Obama might use as his password. Probably whatever Michelle told him to use.
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:19 PM
 
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It amazes me that Obamaphiles are excusing a HACKER just to score political points. And they wonder why we really don't want people like them near us?????

My Paypal account was hacked and some jackass in Europe opened a Skype account through it. Yeah, I got the charges lifted and I ditched my Paypal account but hacking is NOT amusing or excusable. Well, for rational people, anyway.
I have said that he's subject to whatever prosecution is appropriate.

I find it odd that no McCain supporter has criticized her for being your typical corrupt politician...
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