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Old 01-19-2009, 06:11 PM
 
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Obama comes from a very urban background as a big city "community organizer" and activist and as a native of Chicago. I am afraid his policies will favor urban areas at the expense of rural areas and suburbs. Specifically these include:

- giving more money to public transportation infrastructure rather than to construct new freeways to serve outlying suburban areas. This pro-urbanism MAY affect water policies in the West

- he will push for "smart growth" policies that increases density in existing suburbs while limiting further development further out. My parents live in a suburb where a Democratic government is doing this. Their quality of life is being ruined by the increased density and the building of mixed-use neighborhoods that have destroyed the small town feel of their Maryland suburb. I rather have large lots of subdivisions, Wal-marts, and big box stores than cluttered high rise buildings

- ACORN will only be the beginning. He will support more "gentrification" and giving Section 8 housing which exports crime, violence, gangs, and drugs to suburban and rural areas. Section 8 housing is a disaster. For one thing it destroys incentive when you see people getting a free ride from the government, when people are helped to buy houses they can't afford and didn't work for. Also, Section 8 housing DESTROYS previously middle class and blue-collar (difference between blue collar and ghetto.....places like Youngstown and Akron, OH or locally Dundalk and Sparrows Point, MD are blue collar...the ghetto would be the Bronx) suburban and rural regions

- he will not understand the farmers of blue collar and rural people like farmers, ranchers, factory workers, steelmakers, autoworkers, etc
I agree with Tom Lennox on all but the last point (as it's pretty vague) but feel that those are all good things.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:13 PM
 
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Obama completely alienates working class and middle class mainstream America. His supports come from two polar opposites. On one side you have the urban coastal liberal elite who sip lattes at Starbucks and work B.S. jobs like advertising or marketing and live in lofts and such. The other side is the ghetto people, the welfare queens, and illegal immigrants who smooch off society and rather benefit from society than work themselves.
This is not wholly true. He carried many fairly blue collar states without enough of either group listed above to even come close to victory.

Don't get me wrong. He definitely carried those who live off Government and liberal elitist snobs, but there was more to it than that.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Obama worries me greatly. The adoration that a great many folks are heaping upon him is scary at the very least. His head is so big that I'll be surprised if he can hold it up as he's sworn in. he has a false confidence in his ability to lead as do a LOT of people. He is being hailed as a "hero" and as the "one". It's frightening! Since when has he earned the right to place himself in the company of "heros"? It boggles the mind to see the faith that people are placing in him and the closer to being sworn in he gets the worse the false hope gets. The mania behind this guy is similar to what you see at a teeny bop pop music festival. Is this what we have become? Adoring followers of a charismatic figurehead? I'm worried , oh yea I'm worried, because the leaders of our enemies do not share the adoration of this man that is rampant in our country right now. He is ill prepared to deal with guys like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Il. Those guys are predators pure mean and hungry and they are eyeing Obama with drooling jaws.
I think people just blindly vote for him because he's an alternative to Bush, like how Afghans welcomed the Taliban after years of warlords ruling their country. Its only later that they regretted not standing up to the Taliban instead of welcoming them with open arms. Same with how Fidel Castro and Lenin launched their communist revolutions. Now Obama is not that extreme but its the same blind feeling....like we want change any kind of change.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:15 PM
 
Location: southern california
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george bush was a qualified person of character my hard right friends assured me of this all 8 years. that is how we got here. i am worried about all the new key people in going into office, i think white house security stinks. the president was attacked in a press conference and nobody even got fired. do you kow how many BP and TSA guys would get sacked over something like that?
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Southeast Alaska
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really too bad the shoes missed...

that could have been a big part of the Bush legacy
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:45 PM
 
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really too bad the shoes missed...
that could have been a big part of the Bush legacy
Might be anyway. Like for the rest of his life, whenever he shows up someplace, instead of Hail to the Chief, people throw shoes at him. It'll be good for the economy...people will want to buy a lot of shoes...
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Real America
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Yes, very very much. I am afraid of socialism! I don't want to share my earnings. Especially to bums who don't do nothing. This is all I want. My yard and pool boy taking half my paycheck.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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The Moses, Messiah whatever it is, is a concoction from the right. People believe he will be less horrible than Bush and the right wing (for whatever reason) interprets this as people comparing him to Moses.
Are you sure about that?

CNN headline said "Grandson of slaves: Obama is our Moses. Grandson of slaves: Obama is our Moses - CNN.com


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Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, another powerful Chicago-based political figure associated with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and other long-time associates of Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama, is leaving no doubt about what he thinks of the leader in the campaign for the White House.
He says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking."
You can watch it for yourself on a newly posted YouTube video.

Farrakhan on Obama: 'The Messiah is absolutely speaking'
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The salty 62-year old Chris Matthews of MSNBC puts the phenomenon of Obama on the good book scale, telling the NY Observer that "I’ve been following politics since I was about 5. I’ve never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament. This is surprising.”
Under God: Is Obama a (or the) Messiah? - On Faith at washingtonpost.com
Also, ome of the posts on CD may be sarcastic but I have read posts that are not adn are pretty over the top as far as hero-worship.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:04 PM
 
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Yes, very very much. I am afraid of socialism! I don't want to share my earnings. Especially to bums who don't do nothing. This is all I want. My yard and pool boy taking half my paycheck.
If they don't do anything then why are they cleaning your yard and your pool? Is it some kind of voluntary activity????
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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Are you sure about that?

CNN headline said "Grandson of slaves: Obama is our Moses. Grandson of slaves: Obama is our Moses - CNN.com






Also, ome of the posts on CD may be sarcastic but I have read posts that are not adn are pretty over the top as far as hero-worship.
And the right has taken that and ran wild with it, assuming that pretty much everyone that voted for Obama did so out of some strange sense of hero worship.

Talk to some people about Reagan and you'll get a similar reaction.
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