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Is there a reason why they couldn't build a bigger schools in order to do 1 shift?
Well, at first, when these schools were built in the 60-70s, they studied in one shift, but then, due to population growth and an increase in the number of children, they had to switch to two shifts.
Well, at first, when these schools were built in the 60-70s, they studied in one shift, but then, due to population growth and an increase in the number of children, they had to switch to two shifts.
This might be a stupid question, couldn't they build more schools? I would assume space in city's wasn't in premium and everything was government controlled. So why not build new bigger school?
I graduated from high school in ' 92. Our city at that time had approximately 230,000 residents and about 15 schools. And all the schools were working double shifts. If you remember, there were 3-4 classes on each thread. I.e. 1 class "a","б", "в", "г", 2 class "a","б", "в", "г".. and so on until the 10th. In total, about 400 classes of 25-30 people.. in total, about 1000-1200 students only in one school. Schools were 500-600 places, so they studied in two shifts. And in some major cities, even at three.
Gotcha.
This gives me a better idea now - you are from the same generation as Maxim more or less, so you both came in school system when the economy was already slowing down, and school constructions ( and other social projects) were scaled back. ( I still have article on that, where Gaidar during certain public meeting said that it's going to be frozen all together.)
No Zimogor - no "3-4 classes on each thread" in my school. Only 2 parallel classes, and ONLY 1 first shift.
And it was pretty much the same across the line in Moscow back in my day, where new schools were popping up as soon as the new district was still under construction.
The generation that came after us, those 10-12 years were crucial in terms of HUGE difference.
By the time I've left the S.U. ( 88?) the last I could see - the country was already crumbling down all around me. But you were still in school then. Got it.
This might be a stupid question, couldn't they build more schools? I would assume space in city's wasn't in premium and everything was government controlled. So why not build new bigger school?
You have a long way to go to understand the Soviet Union grasshopper.
I can confirm in post Soviet eastern Ukrainian cities of regional significance it was this way as well. The schools are the same building for all grades. Usually elementary and High school was the morning shift, "middle" school was the afternoon shift.
A typical arrangement in these planned cities was one block had the school and another had the "nursery" school. Or if its a bigger block, they can be across from each other separated by a yard. This really depends on the layout of the microraion.
As far as I know, this practice ended in the 2000's with the construction of new schools. My niece goes to a brand new elementary school and this seems to be the thing to build new (put the middle back to morning and take the elementary school kids prior space). This is happening usually next door to the old school, or if there isn't room, sometimes next to the nursery school. Most districts are fairly stable in their population, but new developments have begun to attract people with new schools (sort of the same as the USA in a way). I assume this is the same situation in Russia.
You have a long way to go to understand Russia/Soviet Union grasshopper.
Considering i read that Putin will be president for next 16 years I assume he is dictator. From the history i learned about Russia in high school, i honestly do not see much difference between what is going on there in the 80's,90's and now. It appear that it's all government controlled, and government does what it wants. I guess it wasn't as open at that time as now but still it do not appear government change much.
btw, in general, I was very lucky . I went to school in 1992, it was not the Soviet Union, but the education system was still Soviet.
Even my first school on outskirts of a town had good teachers. Some of them were very good, despite the fact that 30% of students there were from dysfunctional families. This school was next to the house (10 minutes walk).
The quality of education was not very high (largely due to the composition of schoolchildren from rural areas), but it was high enough to move to another school after 9 classes of study (all studied for 8 years, but we studied 9 because of the rural population).
The next 2 years I studied at the city municipal gymnasium (30 minutes walk). We studied 6 days a week for 7-8 academic hours (1 academic hour is 45 minutes).
We had 7 hour of physics (chemistry, astronomy, biology and other subjects had their own hours, 7 hours of physics only) and 11 hour of mathematics per week with very good teachers, which allowed us to get a good regional education. Several people from my class entered Moscow universities, 3 people went to study in France and Germany.
I had Silver medal (Good Student Achievement Award) and victories in regional olympiads and entered Ivanovo Energy University without entrance exams (I chose between nuclear physics and IT, and chose IT ).
The Soviet education system sifted through all children and allowed them to get a good free education for talented children even in the Russian regions.
It was a very good and powerful education system.
I don’t know what state education is in Russia right now (my children are still too small), but I’m afraid that they will already study in private paid schools.
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Considering i read that Putin will be president for next 16 years I assume he is dictator. From the history i learned about Russia in high school, i honestly do not see much difference between what is going on there in the 80's,90's and now. It appear that it's all government controlled, and government does what it wants. I guess it wasn't as open at that time as now but still it do not appear government change much.
I think there is a significant difference. The 80s is a socialist country, with the dictatorship of working class (working class is the bulk of the population of any country). 90s is stage of the initial accumulation of capital, this is the dictatorship of bandits and thieves. Now the dictatorship of capital. The initial capital was accumulated (by monstrous plunder of the country and impoverishment of the population) and society moved on to the capitalist model of the state.
I really hope that Russia will return to the socialist path of development, but... the probability of this without strong shocks is very small. And I think that the worst thing that can happen to Russia is if strong shocks pass through not to return to socialism, but to replace one capitalist (Putin) with any other capitalist. This will not bring anything useful to people (look at Ukraine). And unfortunately strong leaders have not yet appeared in the socialist sector.
As one Russian guy said once on FB - "Yet another marvel among many other we are willing to invent - anything your heart desires, just to excuse ourselves from building good roads")))
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. I went to school in 1992, it was not the Soviet Union, but the education system was still Soviet.
