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Old 07-17-2018, 05:11 AM
 
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What Russians think of US meeting with Trump ?
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Russia
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What Russians think of US meeting with Trump ?
I don't think there will be anything special. The us President is not able to negotiate on equal terms, otherwise it will not work. In the US there will be many beautiful words, and the real action will be completely different. However, as always.Media , as always blaming it all on Russia and Russians.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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The deal seems to be that Syria gets back the Golan Heights from Israel and Iran advisors and soldiers leave Syria. The two decisions are out of the hands of the US and Russia.

Russia appears to be off the hook regarding the hacking of emails. It's come out that the IG told FBI agent Strzok that the Chinese had infiltrated the email servers and the FBI chose to ignore it. It's probably because Hillary had chosen to run her campaign solely on the Russia issue.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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What Russians think of US meeting with Trump ?
Grades are quite positive. Everything knows the two positions are very different and we would see a long dialogue.

The Russians have a proverb: If you ride with a moderate speed then you will reach a far city (Tishe edesh' - dal'she budesh').

I read opinions of Trump's opponents in America. I think they are too impudent and self-abandoned.
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Old 07-17-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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Well said.

Putin and his people said they were going to concentrate on creating conditions of opportunity for people. Cutting out unneeded military expenditures is a great way to do it.
They were in retreat mode after the engineered economic collapse in the 90's.

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Russia meanwhile was still building its strength and was not yet strong enough to intervene and stand against the US and its allies. Under Vladimir Putin, Russia was recuperating what Michael Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin managed to destroy, from May 2000 when Putin took control of the Kremlin.

Whilst Russia was recovering, its diplomats sent a clear message to the US that it was not willing to fight or compete with Washington in Europe or the Middle East or on any other platform unless its national security were to be put in jeopardy.

Washington, of course, interpreted Moscow’s message as a sign of weakness and its analysts and experts estimated that Moscow may not recover till after the year 2020. This is why the US aimed to trim Russia’s sails to delay its full recovery and prolong the US unilateral hegemony.

https://ejmagnier.com/2018/07/15/put...e-middle-east/
My recollection is that they were estimating 2030 for the potential recovery of Russia as a competitive superpower, partly predicated on the price of oil moving higher over that time.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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The US is looking as bad with the indictments as the UK did with the Novichok accusations. The latest was neither a Russian govenment spy or a Putin ally. They've since had to correct the information.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1019375452136394752

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201...ed-Anti-Putin/
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Old 07-18-2018, 04:57 PM
 
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Liberals, Democrats and the left wing power block generally have gone full McCarthy and tossed in Hollywood flavors to boot. This is politcial theatre and the above have pulled out the big guns. They're going after anything that can be used as grist for the mill.

The bias is quite evident. I wonder what the Seattle Times will have to say about this. They openly displayed their anti Trump credentials from day one and even before Trump was elected. Talk radio and the news here are going full zombie on this whole affair and you better believe there are no voices to oppose the madness. They don't dare speak, if they do it will cost them everything.

The only time I ever saw such hysteria was after 9/11. It's lunacy.

This woman doesn't do anything a hell of a lot of other women the world over in every walk of life does. What makes her guilty is the fact that she is Russian and in the wrong place at the wrong time. She and no doubt a lot of Russians are in the crosshairs of this new McCartyist drama.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-kr...-she-love-guns
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:06 PM
 
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Russia, Russia, Russia meme is all over the place.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ozuu8.jpg
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:13 PM
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The US is looking as bad with the indictments as the UK did with the Novichok accusations. The latest was neither a Russian govenment spy or a Putin ally. They've since had to correct the information.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1019375452136394752
It might surprise you to know that our government does not control our media. That the WSJ had to correct its headline about what she was charged with, does not mean the US ever said she was a spy. She is charged with acting as an unregistered foreign agent. You might want to search what that means and how it involves her activities. Minor stuff in the grand scheme of things but still a crime.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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Liberals, Democrats and the left wing power block generally have gone full McCarthy and tossed in Hollywood flavors to boot. This is politcial theatre and the above have pulled out the big guns. They're going after anything that can be used as grist for the mill.

The bias is quite evident. I wonder what the Seattle Times will have to say about this. They openly displayed their anti Trump credentials from day one and even before Trump was elected. Talk radio and the news here are going full zombie on this whole affair and you better believe there are no voices to oppose the madness. They don't dare speak, if they do it will cost them everything.

The only time I ever saw such hysteria was after 9/11. It's lunacy.

This woman doesn't do anything a hell of a lot of other women the world over in every walk of life does. What makes her guilty is the fact that she is Russian and in the wrong place at the wrong time. She and no doubt a lot of Russians are in the crosshairs of this new McCartyist drama.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-kr...-she-love-guns
I think you're missing the bigger picture. It's one thing to express a desire to want to work with Russia, which I welcome, but it's another thing to entirely dismiss the findings of intelligence services and loudly express those sentiments during a public meeting.

It's what we call a political faux-pas.
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