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The Ukrainian army has the same types of weapons for multiple launch rocket systems. And who launched a particular projectile is not an easy task. In addition, Russia and Ukraine have not signed a convention to ban cluster munitions. Attacking a city with these types of ammunition is very bad, of course. But sometimes missiles fly in a wrong direction, and it is not possible to prove who used it (Russia or Ukraine) from video recordings.
That's why I am very careful to jump to conclusions, when watching those "video recordings."
Tonnes of them are circulating around, prepared for the propaganda purposes.
I prefer to listen to the witnesses directly, and my usual bloggers/journalists in Ukraine, whose record I already know.
What THEY have to say about the unfolding situation.
Wow, sounds like you are almost already completely changing your own mind, and getting at alliance for those actually involved to just get out of Ukraine.
No. I have a clear understanding that if Russia started this, it must win at any cost.
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There is already calls to recruit foreign fighters from Syria. So, that is a good sign it's not everyone. Even among the Kremlin, Russian army.
You must not entertain false illusions. Putin has enough support to ignore the dissatisfied. The decline in the quality of life will not be fast enough to cause mass protests. NATO is trying to help Ukraine standstill as long as possible so that economic sanctions begin to take effect on Russians. Unfortunately, this will cost many Ukrainian lives, including children, but I'm pretty sure it won't get Russians to remove Putin anyway. When it comes to security of the country and when it comes to protecting the Russian population in Eastern Ukraine, Russians will be very stubborn. Protests are possible, but they will not be massive.
No. I have a clear understanding that if Russia started this, it must win at any cost.
You must not entertain false illusions. Putin has enough support to ignore the dissatisfied. The decline in the quality of life will not be fast enough to cause mass protests. NATO is trying to help Ukraine standstill as long as possible so that economic sanctions begin to take effect on Russians. Unfortunately, this will cost many Ukrainian lives, including children, but I'm pretty sure it won't get Russians to remove Putin anyway. When it comes to security of the country and when it comes to protecting the Russian population in Eastern Ukraine, Russians will be very stubborn. Protests are possible, but they will not be massive.
And by the "Russian population " you mean Russians and Ukrainians alike I assume, anyone who resists the Nationalist ideology.
And by the "Russian population " you mean Russians and Ukrainians alike I assume, anyone who resists the Nationalist ideology.
Yes, sure. I'm just not sure that "Ukrainians" will remain after the end of the conflict ). Most likely that after the end of the conflict, Russians and Ukrainians will finally separate along cultural and linguistic lines. East and south of Ukraine will be Russian (probably not part of the Federation), center and west will be Ukrainian. But this is only an assumption.
And I don't know what will happen to Kiev, "the mother of Russian cities".
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No. I have a clear understanding that if Russia started this, it must win at any cost.
You must not entertain false illusions. Putin has enough support to ignore the dissatisfied. The decline in the quality of life will not be fast enough to cause mass protests. NATO is trying to help Ukraine standstill as long as possible so that economic sanctions begin to take effect on Russians. Unfortunately, this will cost many Ukrainian lives, including children, but I'm pretty sure it won't get Russians to remove Putin anyway. When it comes to security of the country and when it comes to protecting the Russian population in Eastern Ukraine, Russians will be very stubborn. Protests are possible, but they will not be massive.
Enough support, then the entire country of Russia loses significant credibility. At least completely satisfied to not go into a sewer torture chamber after death. The guilty criminals are going to regret unbearable pains FOREVER. Although, the Russians that don't want it have to mostly stay silent. To not go into jail on this World. Still, rescuing the few Protestors way later. Give them the rewards after death for Protesting. Arresting them way too quickly. Talk about remarkably bad luck. Those 10,000 are still going to feel relatively good, anyways.. Also, don't protest in Russia. Another rule to follow. Ugh, who knew Putin was really this terrible. The worst governing regime I have ever seen. If I was in Russia, I would still follow the rules. Yet, still strongly be against the war.
News media in Russia is lying to you on the situation. Now, the Russians in Ukraine have to worry. Before February/March 2022, ethnic Russians in Ukraine not really a severe problem. Why couldn't Russia-Ukraine just stay friends... What a fatal error for BOTH COUNTRIES. At least it's not really Ukraine's own fault.
Severe implications on the Russia side: https://www.city-data.com/forum/euro...l#post63062842
Have fun spending like $10+ USD/1,330 Ruble on a cup of very sweet flavorful coffee with extra syrup rather than just $2 to $3 USD/399 to 532 Ruble. Sounds unbearably boring to not trust your own system. Forget any foreign travels when Visas are refused to Russian citizens. How long is this war going to happen!? Other than coffee, purchasing Houses/Cars/Computers/Phones/Food Edible Items imports from other countries that are in sanction mode, Credit Debit Card services, any sort of foreign exchange, encountering Foreigners up front, and the entire reputation of Russia is just ruined.
Yes, sure. I'm just not sure that "Ukrainians" will remain after the end of the conflict ). Most likely that after the end of the conflict, Russians and Ukrainians will finally separate along cultural and linguistic lines. East and south of Ukraine will be Russian (probably not part of the Federation), center and west will be Ukrainian. But this is only an assumption.
And I don't know what will happen to Kiev, "the mother of Russian cities".
How do you see this happening, when they live side by side ( and always did) in those South-Eastern areas?
Yes, sure. I'm just not sure that "Ukrainians" will remain after the end of the conflict ). Most likely that after the end of the conflict, Russians and Ukrainians will finally separate along cultural and linguistic lines. East and south of Ukraine will be Russian (probably not part of the Federation), center and west will be Ukrainian. But this is only an assumption.
And I don't know what will happen to Kiev, "the mother of Russian cities".
The Kenyan representative to the UN on why doing so would be a huge mistake.
It's not their country. They will be convicted by a military court, and their children will be ordinary children, their children will not be Nazis, and they will not kill inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine just because inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine want to be different.
Russians have illegally invaded a sovereign state and then proceeded to murder innocent men women and children, it has bombed schools and hospitals, it is the pariah of the world.
Russia needs to f*ck off back to its own country, even then the world won't want to know the evil, child killing, b*stards, Russia, like North Korea will wallow in its own isolationist misery.
Russians have illegally invaded a sovereign state and then proceeded to murder innocent men women and children, it has bombed schools and hospitals, it is the pariah of the world.
Russia needs to f*ck off back to its own country, even then the world won't want to know the evil, child killing, b*stards, Russia, like North Korea will wallow in its own isolationist misery.
Everything you say is just empty accusations. I understand that you hate the Russians, but need to be based on proven facts and concrete evidence. In the meantime, all your words look like hysteria.
Everything you say is just empty accusations. I understand that you hate the Russians, but need to be based on proven facts and concrete evidence. In the meantime, all your words look like hysteria.
They're not petty accusations though are they! They're FACTS! Or are you seriously suggesting that Russia hasn't invaded Ukraine? The West hasn't sanctioned Russia because of war crimes? Women and children haven't been bombed and killed by Russian murderers?
Russians need to p*ss off back to Russia.
Russian child killers.
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). Most likely that after the end of the conflict, Russians and Ukrainians will finally separate along cultural and linguistic lines. East and south of Ukraine will be Russian (probably not part of the Federation), center and west will be Ukrainian. But this is only an assumption. 
Or are you seriously suggesting that Russia hasn't invaded Ukraine? The West hasn't sanctioned Russia because of war crimes? Women and children haven't been bombed and killed by Russian murderers? 