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Old 03-12-2022, 05:03 AM
 
Location: EU
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Originally Posted by Sibman View Post
Everything you say is just empty accusations. I understand that you hate the Russians, but need to be based on proven facts and concrete evidence. In the meantime, all your words look like hysteria.
You are very isolated with your opinion. The UN and all countries (at least the ones without authoritarian regimes) know that Russia is the aggressor and has no right whatsoever to step foot into the Ukraine.
It's up to the Russian citizens to wake up and topple Putin and his criminal system. Otherwise they will feel ashamed for decades for having been indifferent and passive. History repeats itself.
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:12 AM
 
Location: EU
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Yes, sure. I'm just not sure that "Ukrainians" will remain after the end of the conflict ). Most likely that after the end of the conflict, Russians and Ukrainians will finally separate along cultural and linguistic lines.
That seems to have been the assumption of Putin too when your army invaded. You must have thought that Russian speaking Ukrainians feel a lot more Russian and would put down their weapons welcoming the Russian army. That didn't happen though. It appears that language alone is no longer a major unifying factor.
You have misjudged the Ukrainians immensly. And you keep doing so. Ignorance and arrogance are close sisters.
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Russia
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They're not petty accusations though are they! They're FACTS! Or are you seriously suggesting that Russia hasn't invaded Ukraine? The West hasn't sanctioned Russia because of war crimes? Women and children haven't been bombed and killed by Russian murderers?

Russians need to p*ss off back to Russia.

Russian child killers.
So far, you haven't provided any facts.
All your words it your are personal conjectures.
And I'm not talking about an invasion.. and about child murderers, rapists and all that..

So far you look like this..



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Originally Posted by Geggo View Post
You are very isolated with your opinion. The UN and all countries (at least the ones without authoritarian regimes) know that Russia is the aggressor and has no right whatsoever to step foot into the Ukraine.
It's up to the Russian citizens to wake up and topple Putin and his criminal system. Otherwise they will feel ashamed for decades for having been indifferent and passive. History repeats itself.
Let's not tell the Russians what to do in their own country and what they shouldn't. The Russians don't tell you what you should do in Germany and what you shouldn't. Your country is your business. So you, too, be kind enough to observe decency and do not meddle with your charter in someone else's monastery. If the Russians decide that they don't like Putin, they will remove him. In the meantime, most people in Russia support him. And if you don't like it, then it's only your problems, not the Russian people.

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Old 03-12-2022, 05:29 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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So far, you haven't provided any facts.
All your words it your are personal conjectures.
And I'm not talking about an invasion.. and about child murderers, rapists and all that..




Let's not tell the Russians what to do in their own country and what they shouldn't. The Russians don't tell you what you should do in Germany and what you shouldn't. Your country is your business. So you, too, be kind enough to observe decency and do not meddle with your charter in someone else's monastery. If the Russians decide that they don't like Putin, they will remove him. In the meantime, most people in Russia support him. And if you don't like it, then it's only your problems, not the Russian people.

Russians have invaded a separate sovereign state then cluster bombed hospitals and schools and MURDERED innocent men, women and CHILDREN! It is inherently evil and the world has reacted the way decency demands! Russia is a pariah state that has been cut off by the rest of the decent thinking world. Enjoy queuing two hours for a loaf of bread and driving around in Trabant's again! It will be like the 'good ole' days again just like Putin wanted!
Oh and you can stop with your pathetic 'cartoons' because Russia's attempt at invading Ukraine has been laughable at best so it resorts to bombing hospitals!

Russian cowardly child killers.
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:33 AM
 
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So far, you haven't provided any facts.
All your words it your are personal conjectures.
And I'm not talking about an invasion.. and about child murderers, rapists and all that..

So far you look like this..





Let's not tell the Russians what to do in their own country and what they shouldn't. The Russians don't tell you what you should do in Germany and what you shouldn't. Your country is your business. So you, too, be kind enough to observe decency and do not meddle with your charter in someone else's monastery. If the Russians decide that they don't like Putin, they will remove him. In the meantime, most people in Russia support him. And if you don't like it, then it's only your problems, not the Russian people.
No, no, there is no question of any decency. These are Russians, you can do anything with them. They say that Russians are bad, and that's it. Western propaganda, that's how it covers up its organic waste))

Meanwhile, China is very interested in the laboratories found in Ukraine and in these documents. And not only the Chinese. The NATO bloc is panicking a bit. I think they have already offered to drop some charges (otherwise why are there so many of them) in exchange for the opportunity to hush up and slow down the whole thing.
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:52 AM
 
Location: EU
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2 new Russian trolls? Not passive lurkers but new members...Is St Petersburg scared of losing the battle on City Data?
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Russians have invaded a separate sovereign state then cluster bombed hospitals and schools and MURDERED innocent men, women and CHILDREN! It is inherently evil and the world has reacted the way decency demands! Russia is a pariah state that has been cut off by the rest of the decent thinking world. Enjoy queuing two hours for a loaf of bread and driving around in Trabant's again! It will be like the 'good ole' days again just like Putin wanted!
Oh and you can stop with your pathetic 'cartoons' because Russia's attempt at invading Ukraine has been laughable at best so it resorts to bombing hospitals!

Russian cowardly child killers.
Without concrete evidence, this is all just your words and nothing more. And I say it's all lies. And your words against mine. And which one of us is right?
By the way, Facebook recently officially allowed calls for the murder of Russian soldiers .. This is just beyond ...

Just imagine if the Russian network VKontakte (Russian analogue of Facebook) would allow calls for the murder of England or US soldiers? What would be going on in Western media?
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Old 03-12-2022, 06:08 AM
 
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Without concrete evidence, this is all just your words and nothing more. And I say it's all lies. And your words against mine. And which one of us is right?
By the way, Facebook recently officially allowed calls for the murder of Russian soldiers .. This is just beyond ...

Just imagine if the Russian network VKontakte (Russian analogue of Facebook) would allow calls for the murder of England or US soldiers? What would be going on in Western media?
Instagram Facebook and not only. Both resources are blocked. More precisely, all the resources of Meta.Youtube have also blocked all Russian media and objectionable channels. and also channels where the events on the Maidan, in Donetsk, in Odessa and other inconvenient were published. . It happened last night. Such freedom of speech . You can check for yourself.
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Old 03-12-2022, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL; formerly Weston, FL
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Glen Greenwald had on his twitter feed an interview by Breaking Points, talking to someone from The Red Scare podcast. It’s her opinion that the Russians who feel “westernized” are very much against war, and these people tend to be college educated and financially comfortable.

But the average Russian, she felt, supported Putin. The sanctions were developing an us-against-the-world mentality and a renewed nationalistic pride. Putin has a 70% appraisal rating in Russia—which she felt was over inflated—but she didn’t want to guess as to the depth of his support among the people.
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Old 03-12-2022, 09:44 AM
 
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No, no, there is no question of any decency. These are Russians, you can do anything with them. They say that Russians are bad, and that's it. Western propaganda, that's how it covers up its organic waste))

Meanwhile, China is very interested in the laboratories found in Ukraine and in these documents. And not only the Chinese. The NATO bloc is panicking a bit. I think they have already offered to drop some charges (otherwise why are there so many of them) in exchange for the opportunity to hush up and slow down the whole thing.
Is the 2nd paragraph just your opinion or do you have any evidence to back it up? If you do, please share!
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