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Old 03-12-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Originally Posted by Sibman View Post
Without concrete evidence, this is all just your words and nothing more. And I say it's all lies. And your words against mine. And which one of us is right?
By the way, Facebook recently officially allowed calls for the murder of Russian soldiers .. This is just beyond ...

Just imagine if the Russian network VKontakte (Russian analogue of Facebook) would allow calls for the murder of England or US soldiers? What would be going on in Western media?
Its not 'your word against mine' though is it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...vasion-ukraine

Its the world (obviously) seeing past pointless Russian propaganda! Obviously the Russian 'mob' cant sensor the world outside of Russia the way it does within, in other words it can't hide the truth from the rest of the planet. If Russia has issues with Ukraine then I suggest the WORST way to deal with it is by invading then murdering innocent men, women & children!
Russia is the aggressor here, Russia is 'the bad guy' here, the world doesn't 'side' with a nation that bombs hospitals!

Russians need to p*ss off back to Russia.

Russian child killers.
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Old 03-12-2022, 11:11 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Originally Posted by Angry Tourist View Post
No, no, there is no question of any decency. These are Russians, you can do anything with them. They say that Russians are bad, and that's it. Western propaganda, that's how it covers up its organic waste))

Meanwhile, China is very interested in the laboratories found in Ukraine and in these documents. And not only the Chinese. The NATO bloc is panicking a bit. I think they have already offered to drop some charges (otherwise why are there so many of them) in exchange for the opportunity to hush up and slow down the whole thing.
Russians are the aggressors, and have invaded a sovereign nation with the goal to:

A: denazify (that was the first supposed reason)
B: to stop NATO from setting up nuclear warheads in Ukraine (Never happened)
C: defend the Russian minority from the big bad Ukrainian Nationalists

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Russians are bad, and that is it. The world is in relative agreement, minus a few similar dictator-run countries.

I can see why you're an angry tourist, you probably can't go home to mother Russia, and the rest of the world has no need for a Putin bootlicker.
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Old 03-12-2022, 11:32 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Buck_Mulligan View Post
Is the 2nd paragraph just your opinion or do you have any evidence to back it up? If you do, please share!
A number of UN Security Council member states have demanded an investigation into the activities of American biological laboratories in Ukraine. At the meeting, which was held on the initiative of Russia, Moscow's position was supported by India, China, Mexico and some other states,




12:32, March 8, 2022
World
China urged the United States to disclose data on military biological laboratories in Ukraine
The Chinese Foreign Ministry demanded that the United States disclose data on biological laboratories located in Ukraine



The Chinese authorities have called on the United States to disclose data on military biological laboratories that are located in Ukraine. This was stated by the official representative of the Chinese Foreign Ministry Zhao Jian, reports on Tuesday, March 8, TASS with reference to the diplomatic department.

BEIJING, March 8 - RIA Novosti. China has called on the United States to clarify its biological militarization activities at home and abroad, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Liqian said during a briefing on Tuesday, commenting on information about US-funded biological laboratories in Ukraine.
Zhao Liqiang stressed that the US military-biological activity in Ukraine is just the "tip of the iceberg."
https://ria.ru/20220308/kitay-1777128023.html?in=t

https://news.rambler.ru/world/482631...?from=RCM-122C

https://www.bfm.ru/news/494705

As for my opinion, I honestly wrote what I think. We are waiting for the next negotiations and the development of the situation. I think something really serious has been found. Otherwise, why such wild hysteria.
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Old 03-12-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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Originally Posted by DontH8Me View Post
Russians are the aggressors, and have invaded a sovereign nation with the goal to:

A: denazify (that was the first supposed reason)
B: to stop NATO from setting up nuclear warheads in Ukraine (Never happened)
C: defend the Russian minority from the big bad Ukrainian Nationalists

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Russians are bad, and that is it. The world is in relative agreement, minus a few similar dictator-run countries.

I can see why you're an angry tourist, you probably can't go home to mother Russia, and the rest of the world has no need for a Putin bootlicker.
This is what sovereignty looks like

photo source https://dosie.su/obshestvo/22145-ukr...ya-kakaya.html



Everyone knows perfectly well by whom and how the "independent state" is governed. One deal on Motor Sich, very revealing.Do you remember how it was?

And yes, NATO is not a big part of the world, well, in any way.
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Old 03-12-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by erasure View Post
Well, we already know that the "maternity ward" in Mariupol was used for the military purpose by Azov ( I will look more into it.)
But this is coming from the newly liberated from Ukrainian Army city of Volnovakha ( that's the where the fights between the LDNR and Ukrainian army is at its worst, compared with the times of the WWII, and that's where the majority of the Nationalist battalions are concentrated.)


Listen closely what the locals are saying about the actions of the UKRAINIAN ARMY;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUwXnBDOmeY


Hmm... what would I trust more - the witnessing on the location, or some concocted videos by the media?



Decisions, decisions...

You're Putin's greatest propagandist. Seeing you use Trump tactics has to be one of the greatest examples of irony in CD history. You've even converted to a Tucker Carlson adherent. It is indeed a topsy turvy world.
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Old 03-12-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Angry Tourist View Post
A number of UN Security Council member states have demanded an investigation into the activities of American biological laboratories in Ukraine. At the meeting, which was held on the initiative of Russia, Moscow's position was supported by India, China, Mexico and some other states,




12:32, March 8, 2022
World
China urged the United States to disclose data on military biological laboratories in Ukraine
The Chinese Foreign Ministry demanded that the United States disclose data on biological laboratories located in Ukraine



The Chinese authorities have called on the United States to disclose data on military biological laboratories that are located in Ukraine. This was stated by the official representative of the Chinese Foreign Ministry Zhao Jian, reports on Tuesday, March 8, TASS with reference to the diplomatic department.

BEIJING, March 8 - RIA Novosti. China has called on the United States to clarify its biological militarization activities at home and abroad, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Liqian said during a briefing on Tuesday, commenting on information about US-funded biological laboratories in Ukraine.
Zhao Liqiang stressed that the US military-biological activity in Ukraine is just the "tip of the iceberg."
https://ria.ru/20220308/kitay-1777128023.html?in=t

https://news.rambler.ru/world/482631...?from=RCM-122C

https://www.bfm.ru/news/494705

As for my opinion, I honestly wrote what I think. We are waiting for the next negotiations and the development of the situation. I think something really serious has been found. Otherwise, why such wild hysteria.
The Chinese government has no reason to draw attention away from Chinese labs. They are wholesome and open about such matters.
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Old 03-12-2022, 12:59 PM
 
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A rare glimpse near Moscow, perhaps their final report; before being shut down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkX9bvk-qwA
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Old 03-12-2022, 02:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Angry Tourist View Post
A number of UN Security Council member states have demanded an investigation into the activities of American biological laboratories in Ukraine. At the meeting, which was held on the initiative of Russia, Moscow's position was supported by India, China, Mexico and some other states,




12:32, March 8, 2022
World
China urged the United States to disclose data on military biological laboratories in Ukraine
The Chinese Foreign Ministry demanded that the United States disclose data on biological laboratories located in Ukraine



The Chinese authorities have called on the United States to disclose data on military biological laboratories that are located in Ukraine. This was stated by the official representative of the Chinese Foreign Ministry Zhao Jian, reports on Tuesday, March 8, TASS with reference to the diplomatic department.

BEIJING, March 8 - RIA Novosti. China has called on the United States to clarify its biological militarization activities at home and abroad, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Liqian said during a briefing on Tuesday, commenting on information about US-funded biological laboratories in Ukraine.
Zhao Liqiang stressed that the US military-biological activity in Ukraine is just the "tip of the iceberg."
https://ria.ru/20220308/kitay-1777128023.html?in=t

https://news.rambler.ru/world/482631...?from=RCM-122C

https://www.bfm.ru/news/494705

As for my opinion, I honestly wrote what I think. We are waiting for the next negotiations and the development of the situation. I think something really serious has been found. Otherwise, why such wild hysteria.
No mention of Mexico, India, or any country except China at your links.
UN says no evidence to support Russian claims.

https://www.un.org/press/en/2022/sc14827.doc.htm
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Old 03-12-2022, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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From the Ukrainians in North America Facebook page, a tasty new drink recipe! Ask for it by name in your local restaurant or bar - Budmo!



Recipe here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Ukra...1893310650450/

Last edited by OutdoorLover; 03-12-2022 at 04:30 PM..
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Old 03-13-2022, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Originally Posted by Geggo View Post
That seems to have been the assumption of Putin too when your army invaded.
Maybe. But perhaps not.

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You must have thought that Russian speaking Ukrainians feel a lot more Russian and would put down their weapons welcoming the Russian army. That didn't happen though.
It will happen. Many of the armed forces of Ukraine are surrendering. But many are very scared as neo-Nazi war criminals intimidate and kill military personnel. For example, they chain guilty soldiers with chains:


https://i.mycdn.me/i?r=AzEPZsRbOZEKg...kZCeTgDn6uOyic

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Originally Posted by Geggo View Post
You have misjudged the Ukrainians immensly. And you keep doing so.
You have to distinguish between nationalists and ordinary Ukrainians.

Personally, yes, I did not think that they would hide in cities full of peaceful people. Russia opens humanitarian corridors for the evacuation of the population, but nationalists block many exits. I also misjudged that Zelensky would prefer the death of civilians and destroyed cities instead of capitulation.

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Ignorance and arrogance are close sisters.
Oh yeah.
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