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Old 03-14-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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I read that Putin just passed a law allowing all foreign leased aircraft be Russian registered,
thereby effectively stealing some 515 commercial planes (mainly Airbus and Boeing)...
about $10 billion worth of jets ...Russia intends to fly them domestically but will eventually
run into maintenance and parts issues...

That's Putin....no moral compass...a sociopath thug
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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I think that page was showing US/Russia trade. And Russia may not export much oil and gas to the USA.
It must be it.


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China has been a major buyer of Russian aluminum, nickel, copper and metallurgical coal, but steel trade between the two has been negligible and limited to semi-finished products.

Rich in natural resources, Russia is the world's third largest coal (thermal and coking) exporter and fourth-largest exporter of aluminum. It also has a decent market share for copper, steel and nickel exports.

While recently, steel trade between Russia and China has remained thin, the pressure of sanctions on Russia's billet exports could mean more could be shipped into China, industry sources said. However, the supply shift is expected to be somewhat limited as China itself has huge steelmaking capacity of 1.2 billion mt/year.

It is in nickel, metallurgical coal, copper and aluminum where there is scope for the two countries to expand trade, especially given China's electric vehicle ambitions, which require steady supply of nickel. Russian nickel supply will also be attractive to China following supply issues it has faced with Indonesia.

The impact of sanctions on any trade payments between Russia and China is expected to remain limited as several trades were already getting settled with Chinese yuan payments, according to sources.
https://www.spglobal.com/commodity-i...srupt-supplies

Several trades already getting settled with Chinese yuan payments = bypassing West's banking sanctions.

And, a little more:

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Total trade between China and Russia jumped 35.9% last year to a record $146.9 billion, according to Chinese customs data, with Russia serving as a major source of oil, gas, coal and agriculture commodities, running a trade surplus with China.

Since sanctions were imposed in 2014 after Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimea, bilateral trade has expanded by more than 50% and China has become Russia's biggest export destination.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/euro...er-2022-03-01/
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:38 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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A US official interviewed on the PBS Newshour tonight, said that among the things Russia had asked China for, were MRE's Meals Ready to Eat. If that is correct Russia is in trouble.
The Nazi Russian troops are looting to feed themselves. Even looting treasures to take home, they are describing the furs, electronics, etc. to their loved ones back home, and you can hear them gloating about their haul. They are scum of the earth, exploiting civilians fleeing for their lives to enrich themselves.

So if in fact they've run out of MREs, they are helping themselves to whatever they want, wherever they are. And they are murdering witnesses to their crimes to cover their tracks.
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Old 03-14-2022, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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The Nazi Russian troops are looting to feed themselves. Even looting treasures to take home, they are describing the furs, electronics, etc. to their loved ones back home, and you can hear them gloating about their haul. They are scum of the earth, exploiting civilians fleeing for their lives to enrich themselves.

So if in fact they've run out of MREs, they are helping themselves to whatever they want, wherever they are. And they are murdering witnesses to their crimes to cover their tracks.
The Russian army has been laying siege to Mariupol for 2 weeks now. They destroyed the water and electricity infrastructure. They don't allow, food, water or medicine in, and they shoot residents who try to flee. They keep up the shelling, so that the residents have to bury their neighbors in mass graves. And one of the humanitarian convoys trying to reach Mariupol, instead of blocking it, as they did the others, they attacked it and stole the food, water and medicine intended for the desperate citizens of Mariupol. This isn't "collateral damage", it's just a campaign of cruelty intended to inflict terror and suffering on a grand scale to every man, woman and child who they keep trapped there.
https://abcnews.go.com/International...ities-83404363

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Old 03-14-2022, 10:01 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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The Russian army has been laying siege to Mariupol for 2 weeks now. They destroyed the water and electricity infrastructure. They don't allow, food, water or medicine in, and they shoot residents who try to flee. They keep up the shelling, so that the residents have to bury their neighbors in mass graves. And one of the humanitarian convoys trying to reach Mariupol, instead of blocking it, as they did the others, they attacked it and stole the food, water and medicine intended for the desperate citizens of Mariupol. This isn't "collateral damage", it's just a campaign of cruelty intended to inflict terror and suffering on a grand scale to every man, woman and child who they keep trapped there.
https://abcnews.go.com/International...ities-83404363
Doesn't surprise me or anyone else who lived under the jackboot of the Soviets/Russians. There is a common phrase in some of the former Eastern Bloc countries that summarizes the history with Russians - loosely translated, whenever there were Russians involved, they were never right/they were always in the wrong.

Recently read a headline about a Russian pilot landing in Turkey who announced over the PA system to the passengers that Russia is wrong in what they are doing in Ukraine. As well, brain drain going on as the educated Russians are leaving by land to neighboring countries while they can still flee.

Whether Putin succeeds in what he wants doesn't even matter anymore. He has turned himself and by default his country into a worldwide pariah.
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Old 03-15-2022, 01:21 AM
 
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The Russian army has been laying siege to Mariupol for 2 weeks now. They destroyed the water and electricity infrastructure. They don't allow, food, water or medicine in, and they shoot residents who try to flee. They keep up the shelling, so that the residents have to bury their neighbors in mass graves. And one of the humanitarian convoys trying to reach Mariupol, instead of blocking it, as they did the others, they attacked it and stole the food, water and medicine intended for the desperate citizens of Mariupol. This isn't "collateral damage", it's just a campaign of cruelty intended to inflict terror and suffering on a grand scale to every man, woman and child who they keep trapped there.
https://abcnews.go.com/International...ities-83404363

Amazing how I read all this propaganda, but I see THIS instead;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW-RyHeIrzg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=midXQqNwEwU


Could it be that in Kiev's region there is a genetically-different group of Russians comparably to the ones in Mariupol?


Let me check here...


Nope, still the same Russians - evacuating people from Mariupol when they finally received the opportunity, still providing them with food and shelter....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo8F5iNdcQ



... and since everyone in comments were saying that BBC was cutting the footage when evacuated people were talking about what they saw in Mariupol when it comes to Azov, someone left the link to the uncut version.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJPItIuo_M


Indeed Ukrainian propaganda machine is lying through its teeth.

It was Azov that was not allowing the evacuation of civilians.

Not only that, but this woman is saying that they were the ones killing people, when they were looting stores for food, since there was not much left to eat.



But you can proceed with the regularly scheduled program of disinformation - apparently it makes you feel better.

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Old 03-15-2022, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Guys, if you write something, then bring evidence, please. If you write that Russian is Nazis, then prove it with facts (for Ukrainians, I posted enough materials and even more you can find on the Internet). If you say that Russian soldiers are destroying humanitarian convoys, then cite facts, etc. Fact is not just Western media articles, but real facts. At least a words of local residents, video, photos. Otherwise, you are propagandists.
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Old 03-15-2022, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Otherwise, you look like the ABC. The ABC posting a photo of yesterday's missile in Donetsk in a story about the Russian attack on a mercenary base in western Ukraine.


https://i.ibb.co/XzfPSmD/photo-2022-03-15-09-54-56.jpg
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Old 03-15-2022, 01:38 AM
 
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Guys, if you write something, then bring evidence, please. If you write that Russian is Nazis, then prove it with facts (for Ukrainians, I posted enough materials and even more you can find on the Internet). If you say that Russian soldiers are destroying humanitarian convoys, then cite facts, etc. Fact is not just Western media articles, but real facts. At least a words of local residents, video, photos. Otherwise, you are propagandists.

Maxim, that's why I personally rely on Youtube more than on any written material.

Because anyone can write whatever they like, but I need to see with my own eyes and hear what people are saying. ( How they look, where they are exactly and so on.)
Now that all the old official Russian channels are shut down here in US, ( and it's more difficult to make cross-reference who says what on English-speaking channels vs Russian ones,) it takes time to find the new ones, that are SHOWING the news from locations, not just *talking* about it.



Plus the ones that don't cut people half way, when whatever they say becomes *inconvenient* all of a sudden for propaganda purposes.
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Old 03-15-2022, 01:50 AM
 
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"2 days take over", which was never planned by Putin?? Russians have nowhere to hurry now, they blocked most large Ukrainian cities, they cannot take them because Ukrainian Nazi army uses Nazi tactics, just like Hitler - use civilians and civilian infrastructure as a shield. Russians aren't NATO, they want to avoid civilians casualties as much as they can.


So you conveniently skipped my description of NATO as the most evil imperialistic military block ever created. One of the reasons Putin is at war now, because he fed up with NATO/West dictating him what to do and how to live and constantly expanding towards Russian borders. I don't support his war, but I can understand his motivation.


BTW, no matter how much weapons NATO will sell to Lithuania, if Russia decides to take it - it will, and there's no one to stop them, NATO just don't have balls, they only bomb and shoot those which cannot properly respond - the army of cowards.
Russian nazis deliberately shell and bomb civilian targets so the desperate civilians would apply pressure on defenders. That's Russian plan B. Russian nazis place their troops and artillery in populated areas all the time. Russian nazis behave like one would expect of nazi occupiers - murder, rape, pillage, terror, destruction of property and forcing people out from their homes Northern Ukrainian villages get totally devastated by the Russian nazi thugs right now.

Funny to see so many Russian nazis carpet bombing this tread by bs talking points taken straight from the mouths of the Russian propagandists. The Fuhrer is strong, the Fuhrer has a plan, the plan is on target, everybody is to fear our mighty Kremlin rat. We got it comrades.

Reading you comrades lead me to believe that Russian nazis are indeed underhuman, a human is incapable of so much vile hatred, meanness and lies. Your capacity for lying is inexhaustible. Russian nazism must be destroyed.

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