[Gulf coast jon]

Originally Posted by LA33301

Are you serious?

Yes. I got the flu decades ago when in college. Would take me two months to recover and then get fully
back into shape. Now we have flu vaccines and tamaflu antivirals. When we have that (vaccines and antivirals) for C-19, I'll go out more than absolutely necessary.

I really feel for the families that have to interact more with our pandemic world.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by LA33301

Are most of you hunkering down your homes? Publix? Take out? How can you stay home day after day? Difficult times indeed.

I work everyday ray. Nothing at all has changed in my life.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by LA33301

Are you serious?

We have waves 2 and 3 coming. This will never go away.

[Charlie Allnut]

Originally Posted by Gulf coast jon

I find it sad that some people don't understand exponential growth and lack of testing.

I'm going to lock myself down until there's a PROVEN therapeutic or reasonably good vaccine(s). At least I have a private pool.

Is it also possible that the exponetial growth has already occurred with the majority being asymptomatic but data cannot reflect that due to lack of testing?

To prevent people from earning a living because we are are waiting for a vaccine or the testing of the majority of the population would be devastating.

the Flattening of the Curve was designed to prevent the overload of our medical services. We are past that.

Open up without government control. The extent and the speed of that return will be soley dependent upon the people themselves as some will venture out and others remain holed up. But give us the option without shaming our choices.


Another beautiful day coming up tomorrow in the Sunshine (and a little rain) State, get out & Enjoy!

[k350]

Originally Posted by LA33301

Are most of you hunkering down your homes? Publix? Take out? How can you stay home day after day? Difficult times indeed.

Staying at home, everything delivered.

I am an adult, I can handle these things, that is how I can stay home day after day. Adults, mature people, do what needs to be done, even if they do not like it and are inconvenienced by it.

[k350]

Originally Posted by Charlie Allnut

Is it also possible that the exponetial growth has already occurred with the majority being asymptomatic but data cannot reflect that due to lack of testing?

To prevent people from earning a living because we are are waiting for a vaccine or the testing of the majority of the population would be devastating.

the Flattening of the Curve was designed to prevent the overload of our medical services. We are past that.

Open up without government control. The extent and the speed of that return will be soley dependent upon the people themselves as some will venture out and others remain holed up. But give us the option without shaming our choices.


Another beautiful day coming up tomorrow in the Sunshine (and a little rain) State, get out & Enjoy!

This is why they have been saying testing is key in getting things back open.

[Corrie22]

4/24/20....8pm

Miami/Dade

total cases since day 1................ 10,926.....0.2%........2/10th of 1 percent of the population
total hosp since day 1....................1,246.....0.02%......2/100th of 1 percent of the population
total deaths since day 1....................287.....0.004%.....4/1000th of 1 percent of the population

[Charlie Allnut]

Originally Posted by k350

Staying at home, everything delivered.

I am an adult, I can handle these things, that is how I can stay home day after day. Adults, mature people, do what needs to be done, even if they do not like it and are inconvenienced by it.

So if we do not stay at home with everything delivered, then we are not mature?
Each individual needs to choose without being shamed by those that do not agree with their opinions.
I am and adult, I am mature, I can handle these things also, BUT I go out to shop. That is my choice.

Have a Great Florida day where ever you choose to spend it!

[Gulf coast jon]

Everyone has to do their own "risk/reward" calculation. I guess I'm a pessimist. In any event, I hope and wish everyones good intended risk/reward decision works out for them and the rest of us.

Originally Posted by Charlie Allnut

Is it also possible that the exponetial growth has already occurred with the majority being asymptomatic but data cannot reflect that due to lack of testing?

To prevent people from earning a living because we are are waiting for a vaccine or the testing of the majority of the population would be devastating.

the Flattening of the Curve was designed to prevent the overload of our medical services. We are past that.

Open up without government control. The extent and the speed of that return will be soley dependent upon the people themselves as some will venture out and others remain holed up. But give us the option without shaming our choices.


Another beautiful day coming up tomorrow in the Sunshine (and a little rain) State, get out & Enjoy!

[Charlie Allnut]

Originally Posted by Pinta loca

Have you seen the testing numbers? These are people most likely with symptoms and the average positive is only 10%. It is very unlikely most people have been infected. New York City has tested the general population and only 13.5% have the antibodies. We are far from herd immunity.

We obviously have to open businesses at some point but don’t expect life to go back to normal within a year. By normal I mean what life was before COVID-19. The economy is not gonna recover until we reach herd immunity. We are gonna have more outbreaks for sure and at least 1-2 million will die. Do we want an apocalyptic scenario like New York City a few weeks ago? How about people dying at home and not having enough people to pick up the bodies like in Italy?

Good Poiints, However in FLORIDA
I haver seen many different testing numbers.
Who is getting tested? Majority are people with existing symptons or exposure. Plus elders.
Even of those tested, majority are negative.
Of those that tested positive. the % of hospitalizations (& deaths) are low.

I do not expect the economy to bounce back fast either, which is why I explained that the public will determine the speed and extent to which it will by their actions/participation

But I do not buy the theory that millions will die with a second wave, a third wave, a fourth wave.
But many will die from depression, suicide, domestic violence, and drug abuse from being broke. This is happening now.

Personally I am old, retired, doing good, and could stay holed up in my house for years.
However, that is not a viable long-term concept beneficial for my family, Grandkids, friends, community, or my Country.
At this time, that choice should start being available without someone trying to morally shame them.

Get out and enjoy Florida!