[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by boy3365

You are 100% correct.

However, it would be because many Republicans, I guess during the pre-Trump era as I don't see how they can effectively do so going forward, oftentimes advertised themselves during their campaigns as the "family values" candidate, taking staunch conservative stances on hot button social issues. Then some of them are busted having an affair with another woman or sometimes a man.

Regardless of the issue, if one takes a strong stance on something, the opposition will look for any instance of hypocrisy as a means of arguing that the position itself is bad. (How many times did Sean Hannity bring up the private jets and mansions of Al Gore and other celebrities contrary to their beliefs about climate change?) I hate that as no one is 100% perfect and consistent in their behavior. Everyone is fallible. It makes it seem like the only thing some people see as sin or bad is hypocrisy itself. Unfortunately, it is just how the world operates.

I agree that there appears to be some sort of cover up, but the media will not force its hand because even if Gillum had personal religious beliefs about the value of family and such, it wasn't a focal point of his campaign. He is also not in office, so what's the point? If the loser of the Texas or California governors race gets a DUI tomorrow, would the general public care?

Think beyond politics. If the anti-debt finance expert was found to have a mortgage or the super anti-processed food influencer was photographed eating at McDonalds once a week, it'd be a scandal in their worlds.

And Democrats didn't advertise themselves as the family values party?

They sure did; Democrats certainly weren't preaching that its acceptable to step out on your spouse and indulge in drugs with an escort. They just wanted to expand (and rightfully so, IMO) what it meant to be a family. Thus, even in that context, we are seeing a double standard of coverage and outrage among the usual suspects.

[boy3365]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

The point is equal justice under the law. Any one of us would have been taken to jail, but not Gillum...why?

Why no equal justice under the law? That is what most people on this thread are objecting to.

Politicians covering for other politicians has gotten way out of control. We must stand together and demand it be stopped. I will not stand for it.

The FBI needs to investigate this to find out why, and to determine if any laws were broken by Miami city officials. If I were a Miami Beach resident, I'd have called it in to the FBI already. I have no legal standing, so I cannot.

I'm talking about media coverage and not how the authorities handled the situation. People in that jurisdiction should hold the authorities accountable. I just don't see it being a big deal in the media outside of South Florida or Florida media as you seem to want it to be since he is not in office.

People have been complaining about unequal treatment based on money, status, and/or race for decades. But after years of telling the complainers to focus on not having 70% of their kids out of wedlock and always playing the victim, people finally want to call for equal justice when someone on the other side benefits from the same lopsided system.

Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident

And Democrats didn't advertise themselves as the family values party?

They sure did; Democrats certainly weren't preaching that its acceptable to step out on your spouse and indulge in drugs with an escort. They just wanted to expand (and rightfully so, IMO) what it meant to be a family. Thus, even in that context, we are seeing a double standard of coverage and outrage among the usual suspects.

If Gillum was buddies with the people from Focus on the Family, Jerry Fallwell, Jr., Robert Jeffress, Pat Robertson, etc., the story would be all over the media. But he isn't, and so it won't be. That's why the Republicans who get busted for having affairs (both opposite or same-sex) get more news coverage. Being a Christian myself, I don't like this image we've received of thinking of ourselves as people incapable of fallacy, but that's how we are viewed by some.

[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by boy3365

I'm talking about media coverage and not how the authorities handled the situation. People in that jurisdiction should hold the authorities accountable. I just don't see it being a big deal in the media outside of South Florida or Florida media as you seem to want it to be since he is not in office.

People have been complaining about unequal treatment based on money, status, and/or race for decades. But after years of telling the complainers to focus on not having 70% of their kids out of wedlock and always playing the victim, people finally want to call for equal justice when someone on the other side benefits from the same lopsided system.



If Gillum was buddies with the people from Focus on the Family, Jerry Fallwell, Jr., Robert Jeffress, Pat Robertson, etc., the story would be all over the media. But he isn't, and so it won't be. That's why the Republicans who get busted for having affairs (both opposite or same-sex) get more news coverage. Being a Christian myself, I don't like this image we've received of thinking of ourselves as people incapable of fallacy, but that's how we are viewed by some.

Even to the extent that such is true, that's not the job of the media. I could see partisan hacks at the DNC making such a distinction, but the media is supposed to be impartial. Either a married political star (who apparently got favored treatment and appears to be lying) who gets caught in a hotel room with an escort (forget about the sexuality) and meth and is so out of it that he cannot talk to the cops is news or its not. Political affiliation should mean nothing for the media.

And, indeed, the story when presented in the media (I'm not talking about partisan opinion pieces) when there is a GOper involved, isn't limited to "hypocrisy," though there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around here as Gillum chastised a GOP Florida congressman for a DUI and has undoubtedly called out Donald Trump for allegations of being unfaithful, yet he got caught in the compromising position that he did. But y'all can continue to try to rationalize the disparate treatment.

[Frank Purlin]

Originally Posted by rmm0484

Some people can overcome poverty and a lack of proper upbringing (like me) and some cannot. I was raised in the projects, and I made something of myself-with encouragement from church, other people, etc-not my parents. The government gave me a national defense student loan so that I could attend college. I joined the military. I repaid the loan, and went on to live a non-criminal, non-deadbeat life.

I was sorry to hear about Gillum. He could have been like Mayor Pete (a decent gay person), but Gillum fell in with the wrong crowd, for sure.

Love this post man. Good for you. Keep going.

[Corrie22]

I don't see anyone talking about what would have happened if the 3rd guy didn't show up....or was an hour or two later

Gillum was in no shape to do CPR...or even call the medics

[boy3365]

Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident

Even to the extent that such is true, that's not the job of the media. I could see partisan hacks at the DNC making such a distinction, but the media is supposed to be impartial. Either a married political star (who apparently got favored treatment and appears to be lying) who gets caught in a hotel room with an escort (forget about the sexuality) and meth and is so out of it that he cannot talk to the cops is news or its not. Political affiliation should mean nothing for the media.

And, indeed, the story when presented in the media (I'm not talking about partisan opinion pieces) when there is a GOper involved, isn't limited to "hypocrisy," though there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around here as Gillum chastised a GOP Florida congressman for a DUI and has undoubtedly called out Donald Trump for allegations of being unfaithful, yet he got caught in the compromising position that he did. But y'all can continue to try to rationalize the disparate treatment.

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Aaahhhhh. I think that is the disconnect I’m having with this discussion. I’ve been thinking about news commentators this whole time as opposed to the evening news type coverage. I do think he is benefiting from coronavirus in regard to standard news reporting about the incident. It’s kind of like how social media was ablaze (pun alert) about the Amazon forest fires and then Hurricane Dorian completely blew it out of our minds.

So, take the argument I’ve been making and apply it this way. The headline commentators on MSNBC are not going to put much attention on this in the same way that the Fox commentators would do if the shoe was on the other foot.

Coronavirus and it’s economic consequences will keep the South Florida media’s investigative reporters from thinking much about it.

[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by boy3365

Bold text....

Aaahhhhh. I think that is the disconnect I’m having with this discussion. I’ve been thinking about news commentators this whole time as opposed to the evening news type coverage. I do think he is benefiting from coronavirus in regard to standard news reporting about the incident. It’s kind of like how social media was ablaze (pun alert) about the Amazon forest fires and then Hurricane Dorian completely blew it out of our minds.

So, take the argument I’ve been making and apply it this way. The headline commentators on MSNBC are not going to put much attention on this in the same way that the Fox commentators would do if the shoe was on the other foot.

Coronavirus and it’s economic consequences will keep the South Florida media’s investigative reporters from thinking much about it.

I will say that Gillum's ordeal hit at the right time with the coronavirus scare

Granted, I still would expect to see less coverage, but this definitely is helping him in that regard.

[roadtrip75]

Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident

I'm waiting for the body cam footage to be released. Thank God for the Sunshine laws in Florida as I doubt we'd be seeing anything otherwise.

Not me. That footage is the last thing I want to see.

[aax]

This is just a blip. He'll be back in Florida politics.

[Johnathon Hills]

Originally Posted by aax

This is just a blip. He'll be back in Florida politics.

A skinnier, gayer, male with better teeth version of Stacey Abrams, but made for Florida socialists!