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Old 10-28-2007, 01:08 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Do you think the big three will always be the most meaningful cities in the United States or do you think some city will eventually pass them in the future?I ask this because when I really think of big cities in our country,that our the biggest world symbols in our country,those are them,but I wanted to know if anyone thinks that someone will pass them up in the future?
yes thanks for asking.
oct 2012 LA and, NYC will be underwater. giant sunomis.
texas and montana will be fine. so san antonio looms big in our future.
live on the coast?? take swimming lessons, got swim fins?
stephen s
san diego ca

 
Old 10-28-2007, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Henderson NV
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To be honest, you have no freaking clue what you're talking about. Unlike the global players like New York and Chicago, LA's global role is less significant in the world today. This has already been discussed. Go back a few pages and find out yourself.
No one want's to go back a few pages and play "ring around the rosie" with you, Townie. Your "baby-like" opinion of Los Angeles is so eastcoast and archaic it just embarrasses not only you, but the rest of us. Why is New York's port system (Port Authority NY/NJ) dwarfed by LA/LB and Chicago's rendered practically non existent by compare? We're talking actual trade, here. Please, no more stock talk. Chicago used to be an actual manufacturing center on par with Los Angeles, but that's slipping. Why does an east coast media giant like MTV or HBO take all the credit for their current standing when it depended on Hollywood content just to get off the ground in the first place. Actually, they still heavily depend on it. "Meet the Press", geez! Washington D.C., still the most powerful city in the world by far but mediawise, as was the original argument, is just showbusiness for ugly people. When the water dries up, the midwest will be more appealing? Right! FIRE can't even drive people away from California! You little east coast and mid-west people should wake up and smell the smoke and realize Los Angeles isn't some backwater outpost for the Beachboys to cruise around in, those days being long gone. No fire or earthquake or landslide will change anything. L. A.'s still gonna be there,- for you to hate! Love's it!
 
Old 10-28-2007, 10:12 AM
 
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haha... yeah right.. being one of the 5 most important Centers of Commerce that influence the global economy does not matter

Perhaps those economic experts are stupid



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Fact is Chicago does not matter. Gotcha.
 
Old 10-28-2007, 10:16 AM
 
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Then show me one thing, that is not factual in what I said.

Fact of the matter is. Chicago doesn't matter to me, or most people for that matter. Everything I mentioned is what pretty much every US citizen utilizes on a daily bases 24 / 7 / 365 and none of it comes from Chicago. So with that being said, I don't find Chicago that important. Period.

another fact is, you are the one with no clue to what you are talking about.

Chicago, is a step child next to New York
It may not matter to you, but as a center for enterprise, downtown1 showed that it does matter economically. In objective ways, it matters. Subjectively? That's a different story.

It matters, also, to people throughout the Midwest and Plains states as the financial epicenter of the nation's interior.

Culturally, it has been powerful for decades and decades.

No one can prove to you that Chicago matters subjectively. The numbers speak for themselves, though.
 
Old 10-28-2007, 10:32 AM
 
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Milky, the smoke won't get to the East Coast and Mid-West cuz the folks in SC and Nevada already inhaled it


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You little east coast and mid-west people should wake up and smell the smoke and realize Los Angeles isn't some backwater outpost for the Beachboys to cruise around in, those days being long gone. No fire or earthquake or landslide will change anything. L. A.'s still gonna be there,- for you to hate! Love's it!
 
Old 10-29-2007, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Henderson NV
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That's true.
 
Old 10-29-2007, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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You're both wrong. San Francisco and LA only have 5 apiece. Now, California as a whole has 54, and many of those are in the metro areas of LA or SF, but the cities, proper, have 5 apiece. NYC has 45. Houston has 22. Atlanta has 12. Chicago and Dallas each have 11. NY has the most as a state. 57. Texas has 56. Then Cali. Then IL with 33 and Ohio with 28.

When it comes to the GLOBAL 500, only NYC can hang with Tokyo or London.

FORTUNE 500 2007: Cities
Nope. Sorry this is 2007 and we live in Metropolitan areas more then we do in cities themselves, and in that context,

The Bay Area is 2nd to the NY Metro is the number of Fortune 500 Cos.

1 Chevron 4 200,567.0 San Ramon
2 Hewlett-Packard 14 91,658.0 Palo Alto
3 McKesson 18 88,050.0 San Francisco
4 Wells Fargo 41 47,979.0 San Francisco
5 Safeway 56 40,185.0 Pleasanton
6 Intel 62 35,382.0 Santa Clara
10 Cisco Systems 77 28,484.0 San Jose
12 Apple 121 19,315.0 Cupertino
14 Gap 144 15,943.0 San Francisco
17 Oracle 167 14,380.0 Redwood City
19 Sun Microsystems 187 13,068.0 Santa Clara
22 PG&E Corp. 196 12,539.0 San Francisco
25 Sanmina-SCI 230 10,955.4 San Jose
26 Google 241 10,604.9 Mountain View
27 Solectron 243 10,560.7 Milpitas
28 Applied Materials 274 9,167.0 Santa Clara
34 Calpine 344 6,705.8 San Jose
35 Yahoo 357 6,425.7 Sunnyvale
36 Synnex 360 6,343.5 Fremont
38 eBay 383 5,969.7 San Jose
39 Agilent Technologies 387 5,891.0 Santa Clara
40 Charles Schwab 389 5,880.0 San Francisco
43 Advanced Micro Devices 407 5,649.0 Sunnyvale
45 Ross Stores 415 5,570.2 Pleasanton
47 Longs Drug Stores 443 5,097.1 Walnut Creek
48 Franklin Resources 445 5,050.7 San Mateo
51 Clorox 475 4,660.0 Oakland

For that matter,
The Bay Area also has the 2nd most publically traded companies with revenue exceeding $1 Billion. Second again, to the NY Tri-State Area
 
Old 10-29-2007, 12:12 PM
 
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Hi 18Montclair ,


Twenty-three companies on the 2007 Fortune 500 list are headquartered in Houston.

Houston ranks fourth among metropolitan statistical areas in the number of Fortune 500 headquarters, behind New York (75) and Chicago (30) and Dallas-Fort Worth (24), and ahead of Los Angeles (19) and Minneapolis-St. Paul (19). Many other Fortune 500 companies maintain U.S. administrative headquarters in Houston.

Source: Fortune, April 30, 2007


Fortune 500 Companies



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Nope. Sorry this is 2007 and we live in Metropolitan areas more then we do in cities themselves, and in that context,

The Bay Area is 2nd to the NY Metro is the number of Fortune 500 Cos.

1 Chevron 4 200,567.0 San Ramon
2 Hewlett-Packard 14 91,658.0 Palo Alto
3 McKesson 18 88,050.0 San Francisco
4 Wells Fargo 41 47,979.0 San Francisco
5 Safeway 56 40,185.0 Pleasanton
6 Intel 62 35,382.0 Santa Clara
10 Cisco Systems 77 28,484.0 San Jose
12 Apple 121 19,315.0 Cupertino
14 Gap 144 15,943.0 San Francisco
17 Oracle 167 14,380.0 Redwood City
19 Sun Microsystems 187 13,068.0 Santa Clara
22 PG&E Corp. 196 12,539.0 San Francisco
25 Sanmina-SCI 230 10,955.4 San Jose
26 Google 241 10,604.9 Mountain View
27 Solectron 243 10,560.7 Milpitas
28 Applied Materials 274 9,167.0 Santa Clara
34 Calpine 344 6,705.8 San Jose
35 Yahoo 357 6,425.7 Sunnyvale
36 Synnex 360 6,343.5 Fremont
38 eBay 383 5,969.7 San Jose
39 Agilent Technologies 387 5,891.0 Santa Clara
40 Charles Schwab 389 5,880.0 San Francisco
43 Advanced Micro Devices 407 5,649.0 Sunnyvale
45 Ross Stores 415 5,570.2 Pleasanton
47 Longs Drug Stores 443 5,097.1 Walnut Creek
48 Franklin Resources 445 5,050.7 San Mateo
51 Clorox 475 4,660.0 Oakland

For that matter,
The Bay Area also has the 2nd most publically traded companies with revenue exceeding $1 Billion. Second again, to the NY Tri-State Area
 
Old 10-29-2007, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Hi 18Montclair ,


Twenty-three companies on the 2007 Fortune 500 list are headquartered in Houston.

Houston ranks fourth among metropolitan statistical areas in the number of Fortune 500 headquarters, behind New York (75) and Chicago (30) and Dallas-Fort Worth (24), and ahead of Los Angeles (19) and Minneapolis-St. Paul (19). Many other Fortune 500 companies maintain U.S. administrative headquarters in Houston.

Source: Fortune, April 30, 2007


Fortune 500 Companies
As far as MSAs, Houston is 4th, as far as CSAs, The Bay Area is higher as you can see 27 is higher then 23.

But I must digress, In my haste to be correct, I forgot that Golden West Financial and another company whose name eludes me now were actually taken over by out-of-state entities and no longer are bay area-based so

Chicago is 2nd, we are 3rd.

I have to give credit where its due, Go Chicagoland!
 
Old 10-29-2007, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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I've never met anyone from New Zealand who had anything good to say about the United States. They likely despise Australia too. I don't have any good public opinion poll data to substantiate this hypothesis at this point.
That's unfortunate, I've always thought of New Zealand as a beautiful place, like in the scenes from "The Lord of the Rings" movies. I do not know much about their culture, and thought it to be similar to Australia's.

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If Ford and General Motors merged, you would just have one bigger, perhaps sicker company. At this point, the European Union project has been only successful in terms of currency union. Nothing else about it begs imitation.
The EU market as a whole is arguably equal or surpasses that of the United States'. It has stabalized the entire region, which was no small task considering the wide variances in each area. There are already other regions that are trying to imitate the EU, most notably among the Asian countries. There is currently ASEAN and ASEAN +3, but most agree that a full Pacific Rim union wouldn't work as of right now due to the great differences in each region.

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Nineteenth-century integration crashed in 1914. Also, China and India have limits to growth like everyone else. If history is any guide, Chinese dreams are just that: dreams. Russia has never been able to prosper peacefully either: it was growing in 1914 but had too much social divisions.
Global integration in the 1800's/early 1900's is nowhere near what it became in the Information Age. Our economies are so linked that disturbances felt in one area can affect another and vice versa. The subprime mortgage financial situation we are in right now has not only affected our economy, it has also disrupted global financial markets.

China and India have growth limits, but neither of them are even close to reaching them. Their problem right now is to cool down their red hot growth and stabalize their economies before rampant inflation takes over.


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American universalism does not travel well. Arguably, it's not the values in Hollywood product that matter, but rather the messages of crass consumption. (Increasingly, these are the only values promoted.)

Middle America is down but not out, and baring thermonuclear conflict, will be the region and culture left standing. Thanks for shorting us ... we'll buy back our own stock.
I agree, Americans need to stop wasteful consumption and I'm all for Middle America making a comeback.
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