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Old 12-23-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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1. New York-Jersey City-White Plains, NY-NJ -95,944
2. Chicago-Naperville-Arlington Heights, IL -40,907

8. St. Louis, MO-IL -10,991
9. Cleveland-Elyria, OH -10,579
10. Philadelphia, PA -8,042

I would live in any of those 5 before I would ever consider the sprawling ugly characterless sunbelt cities.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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I have to agree with the other posters, Houston is ugly compared to NYC. Saying Houston is like Beverly Hills compared to NYC or the NYC area in general is hilarious.

Who really wants to be like Beverly Hills anyway? Give me Manhattan over BH or Houston any day.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: New York NY
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I can't speak for most cities on this list but I can defiantly make a comparison of New York city to Houston. NYC is a dump compared to Houston. I could not believe how clean Houston is compared to most cities I have been too and how dirty NYC is. Not only is NY dirtier then Houston its also has a bad smell. Houston is cleaner, greener and has a better infastructure then New York. It's like living in beverly hills sometimes.

New York has alot of bad drivers but Houston has even worse drivers. Also the summertime is brutal in Houston. Also New York absolutely destroys Houston's nightlife but Houston you don't have to spend a bunch of money to get inside of clubs.

Speaking of money it cost like 7$ to get a slice of pizza in New York. Houston is much cheaper then New York in every aspect especially housing which is probably the biggest reason why people are fleeing those cities.

Overall, although New york city has Houston beat in a few catogories and Houston is faaar from perfect I would say its way better then New York. Houston is cleaner, the people are much friendlier overall, food is cheaper, housing is cheaper, and there's still a bunch of things to do.
Actually we only charge that much to out-of-towners from Houston. Everybody elses pays a buck or two.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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I have to agree with the other posters, Houston is ugly compared to NYC. Saying Houston is like Beverly Hills compared to NYC or the NYC area in general is hilarious.
We all know that NYC has its ugly areas, but Houston doesn't have anything comparable to the charm, the sense of place, the vibe - as well as the beauty - of Brooklyn Heights, Midtown East, Park Slope, DUMBO, TriBeCa, SoHo, Upper West Side, Forest Hills, Riverdale, etc etc...

Let's face it, there is more beauty in the (little) Brooklyn Heights than in the whole metropolitan area of Houston
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Perhaps the list is there because those cities all have high taxes and are not business friendly while the others that are growing are.

People go where the jobs/money is for them.

I came to CO for business, my brother did as well. We make in the 6 digit salaries out here while the cost of living is very low and low taxes.

I wouldn't ever consider NYC, Chicago, and I used to live in LA and all those cities are horrible cities to live in. too crowded, high taxes, high cost of living, the only people who are benfitting from your high salary is the state and the federal government.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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Perhaps the list is there because those cities all have high taxes and are not business friendly while the others that are growing are.
Except that NYC has the highest raw population growth in the U.S. since 2010, and yet has high taxes and is not known as being "business friendly" (usually codespeak for puts corporate greed ahead of people).

So how is it that NYC has the highest population increase? Could it be that there are other factors at play?
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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We all know that NYC has its ugly areas, but Houston doesn't have anything comparable to the charm, the sense of place, the vibe - as well as the beauty - of Brooklyn Heights, Midtown East, Park Slope, DUMBO, TriBeCa, SoHo, Upper West Side, Forest Hills, Riverdale, etc etc...

Let's face it, there is more beauty in the (little) Brooklyn Heights than in the whole metropolitan area of Houston
Exactly. A lot of areas in Houston look dull and aren't even worth bragging about. Of course, just how NYC has its ugly areas, Houston has its nice areas. But many of those nice areas are tucked away or are out in the sprawling metro lacking urbanity.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Beverly Hills is a beautiful, Mediterranean-style oasis. Much more beautiful than anything Houston or NYC has to offer.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Paris
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In analyzing data from the US Census I have found that these 3 cities people are getting the hell out of dodge fast! Alot of people moving for greener pastures.

Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas Totals: Vintage 2012 - U.S Census Bureau

Here are the top 10 City Metros that lost the most citizens due to "domestic migration" in the last year...

1. New York-Jersey City-White Plains, NY-NJ -95,944
2. Chicago-Naperville-Arlington Heights, IL -40,907
3. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale, CA -40,361
4. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI -18,284
5. Miami-Miami Beach-Kendall, FL -17,037
6. Newark, NJ-PA -16,753
7. Nassau County-Suffolk County, NY -12,516
8. St. Louis, MO-IL -10,991
9. Cleveland-Elyria, OH -10,579
10. Philadelphia, PA -8,042

By comparision, here are the best places to live in the U.S., the City Metros that gained the most population through "domestic migration" in the last year...

1. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX +40,345
2. Dallas-Plano-Irving, TX +38,651
3. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ +37,025
4. Austin-Round Rock, TX +30,324
5. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA +24,207
6. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL +22,728
7. Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO +22,428
8. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX +20,912
9. Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC +20,481
10. Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN +14,935
OP your data doesn't translate to your stated conclusion... You are very poor at analysing to say the least...
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Free econmics lesson coming up......

Restaurant A charges $4.00 for a burger with a 5 out of 10 rating. Restaurant B charges $15.00 for a burger with an 8 out of 10 rating. Restaurant A begins to see a spike in demand and subsequently increases the price of its burger to $5.00, even though the quality stayed the same, and in response Restaurant B had to decrease the cost of its burger to $12.00.

Restaurant A's prices are rising and its burgers are in higher demand, and Restaurant B's prices are falling and are in lower demand. Does that make Restaurant A > Restaurant B? Is the burger any better? The only thing that's changed are the supply and demand dynamics, but not the overall quality.

I.e. Population trends do not dictate "good" or "bad" cities -- just better/worse value!! If it cost the same to live in NYC as it does to live in Houston, do you really think NYC would be experiencing a net domestic migration loss? If you do, you probably didn't understand the lesson!
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