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I wonder if that would trigger a Phoenix-Tucson CSA....
I think it would trigger an independent Casa Grande AZ, MSA, before the sun valley corridor would be statistically combined. That’s just too big of a distance for it to intellectually be one market. The 113 mile spread between the two downtowns is filled with quite a bit of open dessert. Not like the 90 mile gap between SF and Sacramento that is largely developed.
Mobile,Al it should include the three counties that border to the west( George, Greene, jackson county ms pop. 180,000), counties to the north (Jackson and Clarke county al pop. 40,000)and Baldwin county to the East (Pop. 223,000) instead of solely mobile county(pop. 415,000) the true msa should be knocking at 900,000 easy easy easy.
Not to mention Pensacola, Florida metro is next door (45 mins away) at about 450,000. The true csa should be roughly around 1.5 million
This area can be very deceiving on paper.
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I think the Macon, GA / Warner Robins, GA metros need to be recombined. Like Raleigh- Durham, never made sense to me why Macon and Warner Robins were separated into two separate metro areas.
I think it would trigger an independent Casa Grande AZ, MSA, before the sun valley corridor would be statistically combined. That’s just too big of a distance for it to intellectually be one market. The 113 mile spread between the two downtowns is filled with quite a bit of open dessert. Not like the 90 mile gap between SF and Sacramento that is largely developed.
If Phoenix and Tuscon are the same CSA, then Chicago and Milwaukee should definitely be the same CSA, as should Philadelphia and New York.
I don't quite understand why St. Helena Parish is considered part of the Baton Rouge metro area, its entirely rural with just a few small towns and not many people there commute to Baton Rouge at all, none of the suburban expansion from Baton Rouge has reached anywhere close to there except the tiny sliver that borders on Livingston Parish near Watson and even that's a stretch.
I question whether all of San Bernardino County should be part of Greater LA since a lot of it is desert all the way to the Nevada border.
I don't quite understand why St. Helena Parish is considered part of the Baton Rouge metro area, its entirely rural with just a few small towns and not many people there commute to Baton Rouge at all, none of the suburban expansion from Baton Rouge has reached anywhere close to there except the tiny sliver that borders on Livingston Parish near Watson and even that's a stretch.
I question whether all of San Bernardino County should be part of Greater LA since a lot of it is desert all the way to the Nevada border.
Of course it shouldn’t (nor should all of Riverside Co.) but as long as MSA’s and CSA’s use county lines you’ll always get this. This is also true with counties that aren’t as large as states like Southern California’s are? Most people know what cities within a metro they live in are/aren’t really a part of it regardless of what the government says? But people sure love to use them (especially on this site) when it fits their narrative.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Thank you. I’ve said this countless times. I’m convinced those who say the IE (especially Riverside Co.) is just a suburb of LA really don’t know what they’re talking about. This, and the fact it runs to the Arizona border makes it ridiculous to add to LA. The same can be said about the high desert of San Bernardino Co. all the way to the Nevada border.
All of Riverside county is a stretch, but obviously places like Mira Loma, Riverside, Moreno Valley etc are part of Greater LA
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I wonder if that would trigger a Phoenix-Tucson CSA....
The Gila River Pima Indian Reservation takes up a good chunk of Northern Pinal County which causes a break in urban development between the Phoenix urbanized area and central/southern Pinal County (Casa Grande, Eloy, Coolidge, Florence, Maricopa). That almost makes them more likely to link up to Tucson than Phoenix
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I think it would trigger an independent Casa Grande AZ, MSA, before the sun valley corridor would be statistically combined. That’s just too big of a distance for it to intellectually be one market. The 113 mile spread between the two downtowns is filled with quite a bit of open dessert. Not like the 90 mile gap between SF and Sacramento that is largely developed.
Casa Grande will never truly link with Greater Phoenix because of the Gila River Pima Indian Reservation being between them
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