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Old 05-18-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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Birmingham, Alabama?



That it's something out of Mississippi Burning or something. I'm 58. Those images of fire hoses being turned on Civil Rights protesters? That took place when I was one year old. I'm not claiming that it's now the Elysian Fields or anything, but the city has made huge leaps forward for the better.



It's not flat, which seems to surprise many first-time visitors. It's hilly and green as it sits at the tail end of the Appalachians.



It's not a bunch of bbq restaurants, either.
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Old 05-18-2021, 01:36 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta Metro
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“Atlanta, Black Mecca.”

Of course, there are many blacks residing in Metro Atlanta. But, much of the area looks and feels very racially diverse.
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Old 05-18-2021, 03:44 PM
 
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“Atlanta, Black Mecca.”

Of course, there are many blacks residing in Metro Atlanta. But, much of the area looks and feels very racially diverse.
I agree. Much of the northern arc of the city is white/asian/black
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Old 05-18-2021, 03:50 PM
 
Location: OC
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I've been in Portland for about a month now and I find that Portland's problems (violent protests, homeless people everywhere, boarded up businesses) are way overblown. The people that say it's a filthy war zone seem to take their impressions of the 1 square mile area that is downtown and extrapolate that to the entire 133 square mile land area that makes up the city. A large part of the city is fairly clean and well kept and full of vibrant walkable streets.
That's good to hear.
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Old 05-18-2021, 04:21 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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I really do love Cleveland, Akron, Canton and I'll include Warren and Youngstown too. There is so much to do and you don't have to be rich to enjoy it.

I live near Waterloo and this whole area is probably the best kept secret in the city, if not the state. I feel that way about northeast Ohio in general. Generally, nobody has any idea what they're talking about when anything in Ohio or Cleveland is mentioned. In a way I understand how this happens, you see some of the bad areas either online or you happen to drive through those areas the one time you're here. But to view the whole area as those several depressed east side neighborhoods, misses a huge amount of greatness in the area.
This was roughly my experience, albeit on one of several trips to Cleveland...but the only one when my family (I was maybe 12 at the time) decided to get creative with our AAA Triptik and take a non-interstate route from the rock 'n' roll HOF to Shaker Heights, where we were staying. I'm not sure I knew the term 'urban blight' at the time, but even by the standards known to Buffalo, the blight on the entirety of the drive was astounding. (I'd have to Google map the length of that drive, but...it wasn't short). Then suddenly you go over a bridge, cross the city line, and you're in the entirely different world of Shaker Heights. I found the whole experience very unsettling, although, once again, it's not all that much different from some Buffalo-area city ghetto/rich suburb juxtapositions. Just maybe slightly more stark
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Old 05-18-2021, 04:23 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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"NJ is ugly"

Okay. Tell me that again, person from your town with stucco tract housing and where the topography does not leave a 5 foot window.
Parts of US Route 1 in NJ are incredibly ugly. But I've come to the conclusion that our entire country doesn't really know how to create aesthetically pleasing built environments. Or, rather, we forgot what we once knew.
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Old 05-18-2021, 05:13 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Birmingham, Alabama?



That it's something out of Mississippi Burning or something. I'm 58. Those images of fire hoses being turned on Civil Rights protesters? That took place when I was one year old. I'm not claiming that it's now the Elysian Fields or anything, but the city has made huge leaps forward for the better.



It's not flat, which seems to surprise many first-time visitors. It's hilly and green as it sits at the tail end of the Appalachians.



It's not a bunch of bbq restaurants, either.
That would surprise me, too. I'm an ignorant Northerner when it comes to Alabama. Friend of mine recently spent a couple months in Birmingham and reported generally positive things, but I didn't get to hear about its hilliness
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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That would surprise me, too. I'm an ignorant Northerner when it comes to Alabama. Friend of mine recently spent a couple months in Birmingham and reported generally positive things, but I didn't get to hear about its hilliness
And the northern part of the state is super hilly! Alabama is very overlooked - which is probably OK for Alabamans.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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Any list like this that doesn't have New York as its #1 can and should be completely disregarded.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Any list like this that doesn't have New York as its #1 can and should be completely disregarded.
NYC has the quantity, but quality?
-Fleet age is of the oldest in the country
-Lowest OTP of any Train system in the country
-Highest cancellation rates of any subway system
-In extreme debt, mostly from pensions, but the system has the worst red ink and lowest profit margins.
-Recently had to secure a 40% cut in service, compared to 30% in Chicago, 25% in Boston and 20% in DC.
-You cant even get within walking distance of the airport on the MTA? The skytrain is an udder joke

DC's subways have superior quality. Seattle does too.

Quality =///= Quantity

NYC having a great subway transit system, is very exaggerated. Maybe the OCmmuter Systems and PATH are good.. but nah for the MTA. That is overhyped .
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