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Blues is still pretty popular depending on what region your in though. Maybe you being from Boston are not aware of the impact Blues has had but it's still a thing. Probably more so in the south than anything. I mean there's young Blues artist that perform all over the world but because there not pop culture icons for some reason the general public outside the south thinks Blue isn't relevant.
And unlike Ragtime, Blues still floods clubs, hole in the walls, juke joints, lounges, radio stations, block parties , family reunions, fish fries, cook outs all throughout the south and midwest. Not to mention the hundreds of Blues festivals all across the country and even in Europe. Plus not to long ago you had plenty of Hip-hop artist like Three 6 Mafia, David Banner, Big Krit, Pimp C sampling blues records keeping the sound relevant for younger generations. Yes you can visit Hitsville but why just visit one piece of our history? They all play in part in contributing to our rich culture.
You’re probably right. I have no clue about blues or how popular it is or isn’t but I do know it doesn’t have mainstream success. Far as I can tell blues hasn’t been intellectualized to the extent of Jazz and thus it’s appeal is a bit more narrow perhaps. More regionalized.
We are comparing apples and oranges. Boston and Mississippi have two different types hate. Both for being racist but Mississippi it’s for being “backwoods, hick racists” while Boston it’s for being “the perfect systematic racist system”
Also, I’d say Alabama is more hated than Mississippi. The “slave owner” and “inbreeding” stereotypes seem to go to Alabama first and Mississippi second.
Also don’t forget about Utah. They get it pretty hard with the Mormon and sister wives image. West Virginia and Arkansas aren’t far behind either
Its a lot easier to hate Mississippi than Boston. The stereotypes are worse for Mississippi than Boston.
Again, particularly for the under 30ish crowd, Boston is a hotter topic for slamming a place for racism than Mississippi. Alabama on the other hand, I think competes wirh
We are comparing apples and oranges. Boston and Mississippi have two different types hate. Both for being racist but Mississippi it’s for being “backwoods, hick racists” while Boston it’s for being “the perfect systematic racist system”
Also, I’d say Alabama is more hated than Mississippi. The “slave owner” and “inbreeding” stereotypes seem to go to Alabama first and Mississippi second.
Also don’t forget about Utah. They get it pretty hard with the Mormon and sister wives image. West Virginia and Arkansas aren’t far behind either
A lot of people associate Boston with both systemic and overt racism. Particularly older people.
I feel like Ive pretty much been proven right based on what I posted earlier in this thread. Mississippi is hated. Mississippi has a very checkered past with racism and poverty. No one is going to argue that, but the state is so much more than that now. You have emerging gems like Hattiesburg and the Mississippi Gulf Coast is a jewel on its own. I was in Biloxi a couple of weekends ago and had the time of my life. Its not just a bunch of rednecks either. They have a lot of intellectuals there that are proud of that area and what it offers.
Biscuit_head did bring up a very interesting point. What separates Alabama from Mississippi is Huntsville. Birmingham might be a lot larger but its demographically very similar to being a huge Jackson. Huntsville has a lot of white collar jobs and high paying jobs. There really isnt an answer for that in Mississippi.
Biloxi and the Mississippi Gulf Coast move at a different pace from the rest of the state. It also has a strong military presence due to Keesler being there. It always felt a bit more cosmopolitan than the rest of the state. It's proximity to New Orleans and it having a more Catholic heritage than other parts of state also make it stick out. Besides the casinos, there are some decent historical sites and the views of the Mississippi Sound and the Back Bay are always pretty and serene to view.
Hattiesburg is a pretty nice town. I went to College there, and its a pretty undiscovered gem of a town. If it were in North Carolina or Tennessee, it would get a lot of good press and PR. By it being in Mississippi, people automatically dismiss it. I'm generally pro-growth, but I want Hattiesburg to remain a "secret," LOL. Laurel, where the show "Home Town" is filmed is about 30 miles up the road. It's not as nice or as populated as Hattiesburg, but it has some good bones due to the lumber and oil booms in the past. I wonder if all the press that town gets will spill over into Hattiesburg someday.
Besides having a city that attracts white-collar, highly-educated people like Huntsville to retain people in the state, Alabama has really embraced high-skilled heavy manufacturing, construction, and contracting in ways that Mississippi has not. Mississippi has focused more on warehousing and poultry processing. Mazda Toyota is building a plant in Huntsville and Hyundai and Mercedes are already in the state. They've also focused on apprenticeships and classes to educate their population to work in these plants. In Mississippi, Toyota has a plant in Blue Springs, Nissan has one in Canton, but I haven't heard about any major manufacturers on that scale looking to Mississippi lately. I think Alabama will pull away from Mississippi (in people's minds) in the future and will be seen as an alternative to South Carolina at some point.
I have to wonder if this is a better description of Chicago.
Here’s the thing. If you’ve paid attention to what I’ve said in these types of threads, I agree. Maybe not on Chicago. But Boston is definitely not the only city that’s described this way. San Francisco is in many ways a mirror image of Boston in this sense. But Boston is the trendy one for who know why.
Here’s the thing. If you’ve paid attention to what I’ve said in these types of threads, I agree. Maybe not on Chicago. But Boston is definitely not the only city that’s described this way. San Francisco is in many ways a mirror image of Boston in this sense. But Boston is the trendy one for who know why.
Ive spent a lot of time researching Chicago's history and I used to live there. As a disclaimer, its actually my favorite city in the US but I love it despite its flaws. However, its race relations are extremely poor for such a progressive city. While the segregation may be getting better, its still a big issue.
It didnt get that way overnight. Chicago was a perfect example of corruption and failures in public housing gone bad where the effects still linger today. When many black people moved there in during the great migration, the idea was the public housing could be set up in the suburbs and those kids could go to good schools and live in bungalow style housing. The problem was the white people in Chicago didnt like living next to black people anymore than they did in Alabama or Mississippi. So they threw a fit and everything got forced back into the city. Because land was more expensive in the city they had to be thrown into high rises which the crooked as hell CHA neglected and eventually took bribes from gangs to be left alone.
I get that things are much better and the city and its residents have made legitimate effort. However, the legacy still lives on. Thats how the segregation got so bad, what fueled the corruption, how the black/white income gap got so astronomically large, and a huge reason crime became what it was in sections of the city. You couldnt script a better foundation for long lasting systematic racism.
That said, Im more ignorant of Boston's history here. It may indeed be worse, I dont know.
I have always enjoyed my trips to Mississippi. But as far as being scenic with breathtaking views that makes people say "wow!", Mississippi is the least scenic of all the Southern states, and one of the least scenic states in the country. Scenic wise, it probably ranks with Indiana and Iowa among the states.
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