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True, but while Manhattan doesn’t look suburban it replaces many formerly interesting representatives of the local pride and joy (such as CBGB) with banks after banks (Chase Manhattan), Walgreens + CVS (there’s nothing strictly New Yorker about these two since they are nation-wide chains.), many Duane Reade, bodegas became Subway store, really interesting diners became GNC vitamins shop, souls food joint became expensive vegan restaurant.
Harlem is gentrified, so is East Village. Young people used to yearn for moving to NYC to “make it”, in particular the creative type, (see Alan Parker’s cult movie Fame.) because “if you can make it in NY, you can make it anywhere”. Now you go to NYC, it’s not THAT much different from any other affluent city USA. It may not be “remotely suburban”, but it “devoid idiosyncrasy, the complexity, and the roiling excitement that makes a city great”. (Kevin Baker, Harper’s Magazine, July 2018 | The Death of a Once Great City )
Just to share a bit thought of a former Manhattanite who was there when 9/11 happened; who was so in love with “the city”; who got married and whose child was born in Manhattan. I knew “the city” inside and out. Now I still get excited by Los Angeles, but I can’t say the same about NYC, at least Manhattan. It may not be suburban in looks, but those featureless, faceless, tall, square, boxy “luxury condos” are the khaki pants of the architecture.
I digress, since this thread is about Los Angeles.
True, but while Manhattan doesn’t look suburban it replaces many formerly interesting representatives of the local pride and joy (such as CBGB) with banks after banks (Chase Manhattan), Walgreens + CVS (there’s nothing strictly New Yorker about these two since they are nation-wide chains.), many Duane Reade, bodegas became Subway store, really interesting diners became GNC vitamins shop, souls food joint became expensive vegan restaurant.
Harlem is gentrified, so is East Village. Young people used to yearn for moving to NYC to “make it”, in particular the creative type, (see Alan Parker’s cult movie Fame.) because “if you can make it in NY, you can make it anywhere”. Now you go to NYC, it’s not THAT much different from any other affluent city USA. It may not be “remotely suburban”, but it “devoid idiosyncrasy, the complexity, and the roiling excitement that makes a city great”. (Kevin Baker, Harper’s Magazine, July 2018 | The Death of a Once Great City )
Just to share a bit thought of a former Manhattanite who was there when 9/11 happened; who was so in love with “the city”; who got married and whose child was born in Manhattan. I knew “the city” inside and out. Now I still get excited by Los Angeles, but I can’t say the same about NYC, at least Manhattan. It may not be suburban in looks, but those featureless, faceless, tall, square, boxy “luxury condos” are the khaki pants of the architecture.
I digress, since this thread is about Los Angeles.
Agreed completely. Poster you quoted is a big NYC do no wrong booster.
Glad to see you see the change of Manhattan too.
But to the point, this may start happening in ungentrified LA too.
I think Las Vegas, Phoenix and San Diego are the most similar to Los Angeles geographically and culturally. All are in the Southwest and have a large Spanish and Mexican heritage and the architectural styles and natural landscapes are very similar especially in the residential areas. Remember that beyond the coastal areas, a lot of the Greater LA area, including the Inland Empire, is desert.
Culturally, Miami has a somewhat similar reputation that is known simultenaeoulsy for celebrities, wealth, and glamor alongside urban blight, drugs, and illegal immigration.
You have a very “Manhattan below 14th Street and Central Park” pov
its like when you go to school and you bring a sandwich for lunch. And everyone else brings a sandwich, but you say your sandwich is the best. Every post. On every thread. Lol.
San Diego is similar to LA it apart of the same sprawl complex that extends from Ventura to San Diego in Southern California. It's by the ocean except its mostly its military based with Camp Pendleton and all that. It has the similar Mediterranean climate. It doesn't have as many Latinos as LA does but it has a sizable amount. San Diego is diverse like LA.
San Diego is similar to LA.. It is apart of the same sprawl complex that extends from Ventura to San Diego in Southern California. It's by the ocean like LA is except its mostly its military based with Camp Pendleton and all that. It has the similar Mediterranean climate. It doesn't have as many Latinos as LA does but it has a sizable amount. San Diego is diverse like LA.
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