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"A man who recently visited West Africa and had a high fever and gastrointestinal symptoms was placed in isolation at a New York hospital on Monday and was being tested for possible Ebola but likely didn't have it, health officials said."
He has a high fever. He's probably got diarrhea. He's been to Africa. That does NOT mean he has Ebola. He is being TESTED to see IF he has Ebola. High fever and diarrhea are also symptoms of a wide variety of gastrointestinal infections, encephalitis, e-coli, dysentery, etc., etc.
How did you get fronm "likely didn't have it," and "was being tested" to head-smacking doom and gloom? I think it is important to gather FACTS before making ASSUMPTIONS. Hospitals get patients with high fever and diarrhea EVERY DAY in their emergency room -- but today, suddenly, it's OMIGOD, EBOLA! Jeez.
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Originally Posted by eddie1278
What do you mean here we go what? Do you think this is some joke or something It was the top story on the local news and next on the abc world news top story. Obviously it's a topic that most americans are concerned with.
No, it's typical irresponsible journalism -- "if it bleeds, it leads." Congress is on hiatus, the President is laying low, and everyone is tired of the immigration stories. Dog days of summer -- they have to whip the public up to SOMETHING to get ratings.
Last edited by Oldhag1; 08-04-2014 at 09:32 PM..
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I think a rational response is deep concern. That's not much different from the attitude during the polio epidemic, the annual pleas from the CDC for flu vaccinations or the campaigns to have children vaccinated for childhood diseases.
Anything and everything that can be done to make people aware of how seriously medical people take these issues and how to protect yourself and your family sounds more preservative than panicky to me. When we mix people together with information overload it seem we end up with a lot of people at the far ends of the spectrum that spans wry hipster ennui at one end all the way to chicken little sky-is-falling panic at the other.
My husband was wearing a shirt with an Emory logo on it this week at a conference, and had stopped in Peachtree Center to grab some lunch. A stranger walked up to him and asked him, "How do you feel about them bringing Ebola over to Emory?" My husband looked at the guy and said, "Very proud," and walked away.
I wouldn't go so far as to say I am PROUD we brought Ebola victims to the US. I'll just say you gotta do what you gotta do. They are American citizens. We need to take care of our own.
In my humble opinion, I believe, they easily could've taken the infected doctors to a remote area in the US territories with the same health care set up (Army has plenty) and with the same new medicines to combat this deadly disease without the risks to the CONUS and the American citizens. I'm sorry, but at some point, we need to CLOSE off our boarders.When it makes complete sense.
YES! Keep them out! For once I agree with this guy.
I don't care how low the risk is...a risk is a risk. Put my tax dollars to work to build treatment facilities over there. That's one issue where I don't mind my tax dollars going to.
This issue is not debatable....of course we should keep them out!
Had there been an Internet in the 50s and 60s with a CD forum, this thread would not exist. Again, because there simply is nothing to debate. Everyone, then, save but the .1% that will always be out there on the fringe and are always brushed aside and marginalized in a strong and healthy culture, would agree that all possible measures should be taken to isolate this deadly threat and to keep it as far from our population as humanly possible.
The fact that in today's upside-down PC infected and paralyzed culture we have a roaring debate about this - and an almost dead-even poll over in P&OC - is just another piece of the puzzle that fits perfectly with the rest of the telling signs of a country in rapid decline.
We have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of kids walking around the US who have not been vaccinated for very contagious diseases who have the potential to spread those illnesses to infants who are too young to have been vaccinated, other unvaccinated people, and immunocompromised people (like myself) including cancer patients or survivors, those who have had transplants, and the elderly. I'm much more concerned about them than a handful of contained people with a disease that requires close contact to spread.
If people start hopping on the subway bleeding from their eyes and rectum, then I'll be concerned. Until then, it's just a media stir-up.
This issue is not debatable....of course we should keep them out!
Had there been an Internet in the 50s and 60s with a CD forum, this thread would not exist. Again, because there simply is nothing to debate. Everyone, then, save but the .1% that will always be out there on the fringe and are always brushed aside and marginalized in a strong and healthy culture, would agree that all possible measures should be taken to isolate this deadly threat and to keep it as far from our population as humanly possible.
The fact that in today's upside-down PC infected and paralyzed culture we have a roaring debate about this - and an almost dead-even poll over in P&OC - is just another piece of the puzzle that fits perfectly with the rest of the telling signs of a country in rapid decline.
Our national suicide continues unabated.
The issue is certainly worthy of debate, if for no other reason than to combat the knee-jerk panic that so many seem to be prone to. A healthy debate with cold hard facts, figures, and documented evidence serves to educate and inform.
Look at the reasons the virus is so virulent in Africa. It's not because it's a supervirus. It's a nasty one, for sure. But it only has outbreaks in the poorest of the poor areas of the world -- in places where less than $100 per capita is spent annually on health care, in conditions that are inconceivable to most Americans.
I think these American health care workers at least deserve the benefit of the doubt when it come to getting world-class treatment at home. In a month, I'm hoping that everyone will be looking back on this and saying, "Why did people get so excited?"
They keep saying that it is "highly contagious" but "hard to catch" and that leaves me confused.
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It was the top story on the local news and next on the abc world news top story. Obviously it's a topic that most americans are concerned with.
