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I'm outa here because people still won't/don't differentiate between teaching good behavior and something different, violence. Talking about beating, whipping has no place being compared to a simple little spanking.
And I was spanked but have never hit anyone. I do not hit my dog. I never hit any of my cats. People who were spanked with proper control (not "hit" or any of the rest of this exaggerated nonsense) do not going around hitting other people when they grow up. I am non violent. If kids had more discipline these days, maybe we wouldn't be losing so many to drugs, to suicide, and so many lost, confused, messed up kids. Who raised these troubled kids? Helicopter parents. Parents who took them everywhere, gave them everything.
Afraid to say the word "no."
Carry on discussing beating and whipping.
I suspect you're leaving because you don't want to or can't explain why you think inflicting pain is necessary to "teach good behavior". Or perhaps because you think spanking isn't painful. It is painful. I think causing pain in the service of getting someone to do what you want them to do is violence. I understand there are varying levels of violence, and spanking is one of the mildest, but I disagree that it isn't violent in the least.
so we all sit back and do nothing if we know the next door neighbour beats his child with a belt.. come on..
That is NOT what I said! "Beating" and "whipping" are CPS reportable offences. I have, as a mandated reporter, and a concerned citizen, reported child abuse.
One can go to prison for abusing a pet, so one might assume the same for abusing a child. I suppose the opposite of punishing bad behavior is rewarding good behavior. You were whipped for almost nothing & now want to continue the tradition?
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Originally Posted by mpier015
Do you think that disciplining children should include some sort of physical punishment? I heard a lot growing up "spare the rod and spoil the child". I was a well behaved child for the most part but still received my fair share of 'whippings'. Whippings were not the only form of punishment used and I do not feel as though I was abused.
Is it acceptable to physically discipline your children in a reasonable manner or is this type of punishment completely archaic and off limits? If you do not discipline your children physically what are the best ways to correct poor behavior? Lets debate...
I'm reasonably sure at this point that physical punishment has been scientifically proven to generally be ineffective and backfire except in all the worst cases: you have to lay hands on the child to prevent something terrible from happening, or the child is seriously mentally ill, and has to be physically restrained (not beaten.)
Whipping and beatings are totally out; a reasonable spanking is still to be discouraged, IMHO, unless it is the only way.
In Texas, corporal punishment of a child is legal. It becomes illegal when "bodily injury" results. The state Attorney General's web site offers advice about when discipline becomes abusive:
"Spanking with the bare, open hand is least likely to be abusive; the use of an instrument is cause for concern. Belts and hair brushes are accepted by many as legitimate disciplinary "tools," and their use is not likely to be considered abusive, as long as injury does not occur. Electrical or phone cords, boards, yardsticks, ropes, shoes, and wires are likely to be considered instruments of abuse."
Further:
"Finally, and most important, punishment is abusive if it causes injury. A blow that causes a red mark that fades in an hour is not likely to be judged abusive. On the other hand, a blow that leaves a bruise, welt, or swelling, or requires medical attention, probably would be judged abusive."
As of this date, the corporal punishment of children is legal in all 50 states, with some states outlawing its use only in schools.
I've raised a few rowdy boys. Sometimes a bare ***-whipping with a leather paddle was necessary. It hurt like hell but there were no marks, bruises, or welts. The boy in question at the time most definitely learned a lesson and never did/said the offense again. All are now in college or have graduated; all are well-adjusted. Do I regret it ? No.
Last edited by sibelian; 08-13-2017 at 07:20 PM..
Reason: clarification
I'm reasonably sure at this point that physical punishment has been scientifically proven to generally be ineffective and backfire except in all the worst cases: you have to lay hands on the child to prevent something terrible from happening, or the child is seriously mentally ill, and has to be physically restrained (not beaten.)
Whipping and beatings are totally out; a reasonable spanking is still to be discouraged, IMHO, unless it is the only way.
So many people have stated this but I have yet to see any legitimate scientific proof of this. Many of those "studies" are so biased that all the examples should be thrown out the window.
isn't it true that kids usually dread the fear of pain more then the strike?
that you strike them once to let them know you will strike them and simply a threat of a arse warming will get them thinking twice.
If the child has been hit and no longer cares about being hit... they've been hit too often over too many things
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