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Old 10-24-2019, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Upstate
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Originally Posted by LifeIsGood01 View Post
I am rich and powerful because I am content with what I have and I thank God for it. I don't compare myself to others so I don't care what you think of me.


These billionaires are miserable because their whole life is chasing the next $10 billion to try to become the richest person in the world just so they can be remembered for running a company that didn't let their employees go to the bathroom and then they die with $150 billion in assets and it was all for nothing when they could have used half of that money to help Americans and America. So if they don't want to pay taxes at least set up ways to help people with charities for those in need.
You say you "thank God" but at the same time you mock him. God tells us not to be judgemental. We are not to judge others, but by your comments, just in this thread alone, you are judging others.

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Romans 2:1

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7:1

You can't have it both ways when it's convenient for your political pursuit.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Theft is wrong. Billionaires not paying their fair share of taxes is theft.

Taxation is not theft. If you don't want to pay taxes on income don't work and go live in your mother's basement.

Theft are the pharmaceutical companies charging $300 a month for a $5 vial of insulin.

Theft are medical providers charging you as much as they want after the service or telling you that the doctor that came to see you is out of network of that you can't get coverage because you have a preexisting condition.

Theft are the banks cheating people by telling them they can go negative on their debit card and charging them $35 even if it only goes negative by one penny.

Theft is the for profit colleges that are worse than community colleges and charge much more and drown students in never ending debt because someone wants to make a profit from the loansharking.

You will realize you are wrong when you find out that you are already paying for any and every medical need and medication that anyone on Medicare and Medicaid need regardless of cost. You should focus on making sure that Medicare can negotiate with the Big RX companies so your tax dollars are not thrown away, that's what Universal Healthcare will do, force costs down.
Literally none of this is theft.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: United States
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Ralph et al, if one good thing came out of eight years under the tyranny of the SCOAMF, it is that we were forced to learn the left's playbook … Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, Cloward and Piven, etc. The posters that try to deflect this into a religious argument rather than the discussion about taxation being similar to theft at the point of a gun are just utilizing a variant 'ol Saul's rule #4:
  • Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

This strategy also in use by Mayor Pete, to denigrate right-leaning Christians, if you are paying attention (I know you are).
Never heard of it.

FYI, I am the poster that brought religion into this discussion, not to legitimize taxation but simply to get an explanation on how so many can claim to be Christian while arguing in favor of wealth disparity. It's now apparent that some are under the misguided belief that Christ had less respect for poor people than he had for the rich.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:55 PM
 
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The Bible stories about giving are actually more about the giver then the receiver. The giver is doing it out of charity and compassion. It's about his heart voluntarily. A government taking at the end of a gun removes any sense of charity or compassion and changes no ones heart. Only encourages class warfare and division... which the politicians and elite love.

No politician is going to save you. They do not have your best interest in mind.
I m not for the left or against corporations. Look at the healthcare, housing, daycare, and bank credit card interest rates. They only go up. People cannot pay the bills and borrow endlessly to keep up not with the jones'es but with themselves.

The middle to lower middle class conservatives understood this. Thats why they voted for trump knowing that thier wages and livelihood are at stake because of cheap labor from the south. Upeer and educated conservatives with decent incomes will eventually face it because of rise of indians and chinese tapping into tjier jobs. ( search for pittsflyee, bos2iad, bigdgeek s posts).

Dave ramsey says wages are not stagnant, but you are stagnant. True, but it takes extreme dedication to come out of stagnation.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:00 PM
 
Location: United States
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You say you "thank God" but at the same time you mock him. God tells us not to be judgemental. We are not to judge others, but by your comments, just in this thread alone, you are judging others.

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Romans 2:1

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7:1

You can't have it both ways when it's convenient for your political pursuit.
You're misapplying both quotes. The first was directly addressing those who condemned others for the same exact sins they commit. Doesn't work here.

And the second clearly says that Christians can judge but only if they are able to handle being righteously judged in return.

Judging is not forbidden and no one here is damning rich people to hell because they don't give away all of their money.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:12 PM
 
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I m not for the left or against corporations. Look at the healthcare, housing, daycare, and bank credit card interest rates. They only go up. People cannot pay the bills and borrow endlessly to keep up not with the jones'es but with themselves.

The middle to lower middle class conservatives understood this. Thats why they voted for trump knowing that thier wages and livelihood are at stake because of cheap labor from the south. Upeer and educated conservatives with decent incomes will eventually face it because of rise of indians and chinese tapping into tjier jobs. ( search for pittsflyee, bos2iad, bigdgeek s posts).

Dave ramsey says wages are not stagnant, but you are stagnant. True, but it takes extreme dedication to come out of stagnation.
LOL uhm, hardly stagnant. Not sure how you arrived that that. Actually a huge Ramsey fan and grad of FPU. We were paycheck to paycheck, but his plan motivated us and changed our lives 7 years ago and have not looked back. Far from stagnant.
...And not one politician was harmed or helped in making that happen.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Oh you mean the Trump's Repugs storming Congress and arguing about the process because they can't argue his crime?

You want to know what Trump's rules are? never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.
How can Congress "storm" Congress - but you got it backwards, you must mean the Democraps locking out others from the process because they can't argue the facts.

Also how can the Reps argue anything if they have no say or ability to even hear what is being said - think

You want to know Schiff's rules? Investigate for years and when the report is not to your liking, keep investigating until you can try to turn something into a big deal behind closed doors. Schiff's repeated blatant lies -sometimes calling them "a parody", reported involvement before whistleblower report was filed and leaks of half trues are what is so shady to the general public about this process so far.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Conservatives are easily fooled and scared especially the older ones who want everyone to abide by their religious Christian only morals. Conservatives are chipping away at your freedoms and liberties by saying that a corporation is a person and can donate as much as they want to a candidate to buy them off. Others are worried that their racist views are no longer tolerated in society and that we are all presumed equal in eyes of the Constitution.
So you called conservatives as a group, foolish, scared, old and racist - talk about stereotyping and attempting to marginalize a point of view. You have a very weak argument if you have to resort to name calling. As far as big money donations, as much or more went to Dems as went to Reps - https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?cycle=2018.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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You say you "thank God" but at the same time you mock him. God tells us not to be judgemental. We are not to judge others, but by your comments, just in this thread alone, you are judging others.

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Romans 2:1

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7:1

You can't have it both ways when it's convenient for your political pursuit.
Stop being judgemental.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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How can Congress "storm" Congress - but you got it backwards, you must mean the Democraps locking out others from the process because they can't argue the facts.

Also how can the Reps argue anything if they have no say or ability to even hear what is being said - think

You want to know Schiff's rules? Investigate for years and when the report is not to your liking, keep investigating until you can try to turn something into a big deal behind closed doors. Schiff's repeated blatant lies -sometimes calling them "a parody", reported involvement before whistleblower report was filed and leaks of half trues are what is so shady to the general public about this process so far.
You believed their lies, both Republican and Democrat member of 3 committees about 37 Congresspeople on each side heard the testimony.

Trust me, they are arguing the process because they have no other argument,

They would HATE for this testimony to get out in the public, so far the only one who has lied is the EU Ambassador who Trump appointed because of his million dollar donation.

The new Ukraine Ambassador who replaced the one Jailiani and Trump got removed said there was a quid pro quo.

But anyone not watching Fox already knows
1. The whistleblower said there was a quid pro quo
2. Trump proved it by saying " I need a favor, though" in the transcript that proved #1
3 Then Trump said That China should investigate them too, knowing he's holding up trade talks and is keeping his mouth shut about the people in Hong Kong waving American flags to represent freedom.
4. Mulvany said there was a quid pro quo, it happens all the time get over it
5. The Ambassador texts and testimony proves it.

Trump cannot conspire to hold up Congressional money to help Ukraine defend itself against Trump's buddy Putin who already took over the bottom part called Crimea, and he can not ask a foreign nation to interfere on our elections to get dirt on his opponent.

So when Fox says you can't impeach someone over a phone call, they think you are a moron.

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