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Old 05-22-2022, 02:22 PM
 
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If I had to choose, I'd say leave it up to the individual and their doctor or god.

I'd appreciate a cite of states that allow unlimited abortion throughout pregnancy without severe medical reasons. I'm not familiar with the being the case.

 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:28 PM
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21-24 weeks is a compromise. There are several states that allow abortion at any point during a pregnancy. We seem to be moving to extremes on both ends even though I believe most people fall somewhere in the middle.
Canada allows abortion at any point during pregnancy and it's publicly funded. In practice, 90% of abortions occur in the first trimester, and there are few physicians who will perform abortions after 23 weeks. Their abortion rate is slightly lower than the US.
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:29 PM
 
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Would someone who believes that life begins at conception comment on my post about IVF and discarded embryos?

To be true to your beliefs, you would have to consider the discarding of unused embryos murder and therefore be opposed to IVF.

Does anyone know what the Catholic Churches stance is on IVF?
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:37 PM
 
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If I had to choose, I'd say leave it up to the individual and their doctor or god.

I'd appreciate a cite of states that allow unlimited abortion throughout pregnancy without severe medical reasons. I'm not familiar with the being the case.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abo...-supreme-court
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:38 PM
 
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From what I've read, the Catholic church is against IVF because it separates the life creating act from the marital bond and puts it in the hands of technologists, plus the issue of destroying unused embryos. I did read that supposedly charting and marking fertile times is more accurate than IVF (certainly the CC would like to think so).
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:40 PM
 
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Thank you for the cite.
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:43 PM
 
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Would someone who believes that life begins at conception comment on my post about IVF and discarded embryos?

To be true to your beliefs, you would have to consider the discarding of unused embryos murder and therefore be opposed to IVF.

Does anyone know what the Catholic Churches stance is on IVF?
I'm not Catholic, but I find discarding embryos problematic. There's a very easy solution though--embryo donation.

Many people have absolutely no issue with aborting their embryos. It would seem to me to be hugely inconsistent if those same people were unwilling to donate their embryos to someone who wanted them--and most especially if they would be willing to donate sperm or eggs.
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:47 PM
 
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I had a Catholic neighbor who used IVF. Got his son with the last embryo. When I asked him what he'd have done with extras, he just drew a blank and said he hadn't thought about it.

Logical or not, I'm pretty sure people get a "my DNA" proprietary feeling about the embryos, besides not seeing it as equal to a baby (which, of course, it is not).
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:47 PM
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Thank you for the cite.
That same source also says...

"About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion," per the Kaiser Family Foundation."
 
Old 05-22-2022, 02:49 PM
 
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I'm afraid anti-abortion propaganda features the prom queen who gets an abortion a week before delivery so she can go to the prom. Sex and the City sexual libertines. Etc.
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