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I am a self hating smoker. I wish I didn't smoke. I hate it. I quit for two or three years at a time and then will start again.
The government has recognized smoking is an addiction in all the lawsuits against tobacco companies and yet they tax the hell out of it! Why because it is an addiction and they know most people will smoke anyway because they are addicted and will continue to pay the price.
Anything else deemed so harmful would be outlawed and regulated. Look at some states strict exhaust laws. The thing is, this country cannot do without the "sin" tax dollars. Especially right now.
Yes, I beleive Cigs in their over processed state should be outlawed and all other processed foods that are harmful to peoples health. Tobacco in its raw state? No. It doesn't contain all the crap that overprocessed cigs contain. Unfortunately for me, I am addicted to the processed tobacco, perhaps I should switch to some homegrown but, then, that is illegal because it is untaxable.
WHats funny is smokers refuse to admit they do not CARE if smoking offends others. they make up excuses and deflect from the issue, but when it comes down to it, they KNOW smoking is harmful, but they do NOT CARE.
I am a self hating smoker. I wish I didn't smoke. I hate it. I quit for two or three years at a time and then will start again.
The government has recognized smoking is an addiction in all the lawsuits against tobacco companies and yet they tax the hell out of it! Why because it is an addiction and they know most people will smoke anyway because they are addicted and will continue to pay the price.
Anything else deemed so harmful would be outlawed and regulated. Look at some states strict exhaust laws. The thing is, this country cannot do without the "sin" tax dollars. Especially right now.
Yes, I beleive Cigs in their over processed state should be outlawed and all other processed foods that are harmful to peoples health. Tobacco in its raw state? No. It doesn't contain all the crap that overprocessed cigs contain. Unfortunately for me, I am addicted to the processed tobacco, perhaps I should switch to some homegrown but, then, that is illegal because it is untaxable.
Several 1st nations tribes offer natural blends they manufacture themselves. I smoke such a brand.
Most reservations are tax free as well (not in NYS anymore, unfortunatly. More treaties broken).
May I suggest you locate, and switch to, such a brand? Some reservation smoke shops have online ordering and shipping, though your local/state municipality may have laws limiting online purchases so it will be wise to check before hand.
It helped ease my addiction to the crap big tobacco puts in their smokes, and turned smoking into a mere physical habit for me. You might still experience the grumps tho, just so you know.
Still waiting on peer reviewed clinical reaserch and trials showing some ionherent danger of second hand smoke, BTW.
If we're going to outlaw or restrict something currently legal, let's at least do it for health concerns, and not because some people are merely offended.
Still waiting on peer reviewed clinical reaserch and trials showing some ionherent danger of second hand smoke, BTW.
If we're going to outlaw or restrict something currently legal, let's at least do it for health concerns, and not because some people are merely offended.
This is the best I could find. It is backed up with over a 130 sources too....
"In the first 18 months after the town of Pueblo, Colorado enacted a smoking ban in 2003, hospital admissions for heart attacks dropped 27%. Admissions in neighboring towns without smoking bans showed no change. Raymond Gibbons, M.D., American Heart Association president said, "The decline in the number of heart attack hospitalizations within the first year and a half after the non-smoking ban that was observed in this study is most likely due to a decrease in the effect of secondhand smoke as a triggering factor for heart attacks."
"In the first 18 months after the town of Pueblo, Colorado enacted a smoking ban in 2003, hospital admissions for heart attacks dropped 27%. Admissions in neighboring towns without smoking bans showed no change. Raymond Gibbons, M.D., American Heart Association president said, "The decline in the number of heart attack hospitalizations within the first year and a half after the non-smoking ban that was observed in this study is most likely due to a decrease in the effect of secondhand smoke as a triggering factor for heart attacks."
Sorry, there are no peer reviewed clinical research or trials in your link.
Just more of the usual junk "science" we've come to expect.
Statistics are TOO easy to manipulate to be used as any form of concrete evidence.
This is why it is imperative, especially when discussing the elimination of an "Inherent Right" (activities currently not legislated against but do not appear in the US or State Constitutions), to have peer reviewed clinical research and testing under laboratory conditions.
Added-in-Edit - But thanks for the effort. It was a rather laoded question, as there is NO legitimate research done that I know of.
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Sorry, there are no peer reviewed clinical research or trials in your link.
Just more of the usual junk "science" we've come to expect.
Statistics are TOO easy to manipulate to be used as any form of concrete evidence.
This is why it is imperative, especially when discussing the elimination of an "Inherent Right" (activities currently not legislated against but do not appear in the US or State Constitutions), to have peer reviewed clinical research and testing under laboratory conditions.
Added-in-Edit - But thanks for the effort. It was a rather laoded question, as there is NO legitimate research done that I know of.
Fair enough, but remember I do not want cigarettes banned. I only want a reasonable ban on public places like California or Arizona has. Nevada is lacking it.
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