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That effort would cost millions of dollars in taxpayer money. Not worth it. The drug war is fascist and needs to end anyway, no sense in making it worse than it already is.
so true. forget the people on welfare; if something like that went into effect, most of the people who would be denied gov't money would be college students who got caught smoking some pot.
I personally don't get the connection between using illegal drugs and receiving gov't aid. is it just the idea of using such drugs so despicable? is it b/c it's simply illegal? in the case of the latter, why not refuse benefits to other people who have broken the law? why not extend it to people w/ parking violations? frankly, there are bigger crimes out there than drug use, esp. when the drug in question is often marijuana. pot heads are better than alcoholics, IMHO.
It should be;
"If you want any type of government assistance you should be clean of illegal drugs. If not then that is your choice."
To allow government money to be used to subsidize drugs is BS and to just give up because it will take effort to weed (no pun) them out is a cop-out.
NO PEE NO MONEY!
Why is it only for illegal drugs, why not the legal drugs? I thought the idea behind this was because people who use illegal drugs, are drug addicts. There are drug addicts who use prescription drugs too.
Or is it because illicit drugs are illegal? What about other crimes, like petty larceny, concealing stolen property? Do people need to have a criminal history done on them if they apply for assistance? Crimes are committed, for reasons other than drugs.
What makes you think that government money won't subsidize buying legal drugs for addiction or selling to John Q public? Are legal drugs any better
than illicit drugs, they are used for the same purpose.
No. Absolutely not. Why pick on drugs? Why not do a sugar test? Or a fat test? Or a "going to church" test? What's the point? If you are going to support someone, why do you care what they do?
It should be;
"If you want any type of government assistance you should be clean of illegal drugs. If not then that is your choice."
To allow government money to be used to subsidize drugs is BS and to just give up because it will take effort to weed (no pun) them out is a cop-out.
NO PEE NO MONEY!
It makes much more sense to put them to work. No work, no money.
Screening for drugs is silly. Why not screen for fat? Too fat, no government money! How about soft drinks? Why should my money go to someone who uses it to by soft drinks? Let them drink WATER!
Things like this always sound like a good thing but are ridiculously cumbersome to apply. The real problem is that we, as a society, never seem to get to the point where we just let people fall and fail. We ALWAYS want to step in and "help". Even if we did drug testing for public assistance we still wouldn't allow those who fail the test to go off on their own or possibly die, we would come up with yet another way to "help", another safety net. And that sounds like a good thing too but in reality...not so much. We don't have to actively thin the heard, but sometimes we should not actively try to prevent it from happening either.
One summer in the 80s I helped a friend when he drove an ice cream truck. When we went into a certain neighborhood he said watch this. The kids all came running with food stamps. When he told them he couldn't accept food stamps for ice cream they told him to wait. They returned with $50 to $100 bills in hand. Perform random drug test on the person receiving welfare. If they refuse, drop them. If they fail, drop them for six months and provide them with a list of facilities where they can get help getting off the drugs. After six months, retest, if they're clean then they're back on the welfare. If you have enough money to afford illegal drugs then you don't need welfare.
That effort would cost millions of dollars in taxpayer money. Not worth it. The drug war is fascist and needs to end anyway, no sense in making it worse than it already is.
Yes it would, but in the process it would also slow the miss use of government funded monies from being used for illegal drugs. If the "drug war" needs to end anyway why would you oppose the testing of the group that miss uses drugs the most?
Why is it only for illegal drugs, why not the legal drugs? I thought the idea behind this was because people who use illegal drugs, are drug addicts. There are drug addicts who use prescription drugs too.
Or is it because illicit drugs are illegal? What about other crimes, like petty larceny, concealing stolen property? Do people need to have a criminal history done on them if they apply for assistance? Crimes are committed, for reasons other than drugs.
What makes you think that government money won't subsidize buying legal drugs for addiction or selling to John Q public? Are legal drugs any better
than illicit drugs, they are used for the same purpose.
Wait, you think we should attack those who miss use legal drugs? How? they're legal, it's their doctors who have this job.
For the comments in bold, in my mind, yes! But I was looking to tackle one issue at a time.
The people who ABUSE government assistance should be exempt from government assistance. They are ungrateful and pull society down. Once they learn there is no free ride they will crap or get off the pot.
It makes much more sense to put them to work. No work, no money. I agree, but the liberal world would see that as slavery. Doing nothing will result in nothing changing. Make getting free money from the government a little harder than just having a SSN. A lot of folks need assistance but way more of them abuse it.
Screening for drugs is silly. Why not screen for fat? Too fat, no government money! How about soft drinks? Why should my money go to someone who uses it to by soft drinks? Let them drink WATER!
Come on folks, are you all on government assistance? Or maybe none of you have tax paying jobs and where that magic money comes from is no big deal to you. Too many fat lazy dope smoken people abuse tax payer money because it easy, IT'S STEELING.
We need to make government assistance embarrassing again!
I would agree with drug testing for legal (some can effect judgnment) and illegal drugs for anyone applying for any government license, assistance or contract. That would weed out the drug users. Test everyone.
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