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Who me? No! lol but maybe I could recruit some strong young men who want to get some anger out and a good workout. It might actually be fun.
Ok, setting aside the fact we're now using technology that was the norm 100 years ago where do you get the steel for the sledge? Are you going out in the woods and cut the handle yourself? Still need saw even if it's a hand saw, the small steel tools to shape your handle? Where is the steel for those products coming from. What about the energy required to forge them?
A lot of calories involved with that kind of work, where is the extra food coming from?
Ok, setting aside the fact we're now using technology that was the norm 100 years ago where do you get the steel for the sledge? Are you going out in the woods and cut the handle yourself? Still need saw even if it's a hand saw, the small steel tools to shape your handle? Where is the steel for those products coming from. What about the energy required to forge them?
A lot of calories involved with that kind of work, where is the extra food coming from?
The steel can be from recycled metal the food is organic. I just wondered something isn't there a way to repair the sidewalk and not replace it? Maybe you could try that first?
I love how the proponents of the fossil fuel industry in this thread say we need more energy than solar or wind can provide. To sustain what? The pollution infested, throw away industrial society we've created for ourselves?
Except for maybe the energy and products needed by the medical industry, there is nothing humans can't provide themselves now for their survival, they couldn't provide themselves before the use of gas and coal. And the addition of solar and wind will only make that easier. So imagine colonial times but just add solar and wind power to the mix. We might still have to heat our homes with wood for awhile, for instance, but we would get around in electric vehicles, whether cars or bikes, powered by solar and wind. (And remember an electric bike is comparable to a horse in colonial times so we know it's a livable mode of transportation.) That would take a huge chunk out of civilization's carbon footprint. Compare that to today where we both simultaneously heat our homes with fossil fuel AND drive around on fossil fuels.
All the gas and coal industry adds is mostly the ability to over produce more than we need. To go faster than we need and to produce more waste and pollution than we should be.
I want to add though that I would allow the use of gas as a supplemental emergency and "special case" fuel. In other words, for medical reasons, scientific, official governmental business, emergency road mantainence, vital overseas travel, some refrigeration, etc...not for local BS.
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Ok, setting aside the fact we're now using technology that was the norm 100 years ago...
A fact also attributable to the use of coal and gas you conveinently avoid mentioning in your defense of those technologies..but, yea, let's set that aside for now...lol.
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I love how the proponents of the fossil fuel industry in this thread say we need more energy than solar or wind can provide. To sustain what? The pollution infested, throw away industrial society we've created for ourselves?
Except for maybe the energy and products needed by the medical industry, there is nothing humans can't provide themselves now for their survival, they couldn't provide themselves before the use of gas and coal. And the addition of solar and wind will only make that easier. So imagine colonial times but just add solar and wind power to the mix. We might still have to heat our homes with wood for awhile, for instance, but we would get around in electric vehicles, whether cars or bikes, powered by solar and wind. (And remember an electric bike is comparable to a horse in colonial times so we know it's a livable mode of transportation.) That would take a huge chunk out of civilization's carbon footprint. Compare that to today where we both simultaneously heat our homes with fossil fuel AND drive around on fossil fuels.
All the gas and coal industry adds is mostly the ability to over produce more than we need. To go faster than we need and to produce more waste and pollution than we should be.
I want to add though that I would allow the use of gas as a supplemental emergency and "special case" fuel. In other words, for medical reasons, scientific, official governmental business, emergency road mantainence, vital overseas travel, some refrigeration, etc...not for local BS.
Yes as a mentioned in a previous post we do buy too much . I guess it's hard to give back a certain lifestyle once you get used to it but I wish we all would rethink they way we live and what we really need . We have too much stuff and our lives could be simpler.
How does the recycled material get to the recycling facility? Energy to sort it? Where is the fule coming from to forge it into a sledge.
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the food is organic.
This would require much more energy and land to make food. If you have everyone using sledges to bust up concrete around the county you're going to need a LOT of food.
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I just wondered something isn't there a way to repair the sidewalk and not replace it?
Irrelevant to the point I'm making and repairing broken sidewalks is a time and money wasting band aid.
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