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Old 12-18-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Bigotry is basically intolerance of beliefs that differ from one's own. The billboard seems to imply that those who adhere to religious beliefs concerning homosexuality are "bigots". But isn't that fairly hypocritical? Shouldn't the group be a bit more tolerant of those whose religiously view homosexuality as sin? After all if the group views homosexuality as "ok" then shouldn't it also be acceptable for someone else to view homosexuality as "not ok"? Seems like the group is imposing a double standard.
That billboard is NOT saying "you are a bigot if you have anti-gay religious beliefs"; it is saying "those religious beliefs are not an excuse for bigotry". Plenty of people believe certain things about other groups of people, but don't allow those beliefs to influence the way they treat people. Somehow (many) people seem to think that if they can say "the Bible says...", then it's OK to treat fellow humans as second-class citizens. When in fact, the Bible says MANY, MANY things that those people do not obey, such as stoning adulterers, not eating shellfish, or not shaving one's beard.

But, this is veering off the Triad Area topic.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Is there that much of a need for these signs in the Carolina's? I do interpret the message as meaning well to the gay person. I just wonder did the group that placed them, feel the climate towards gays warranted the signs.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:19 AM
 
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Is there that much of a need for these signs in the Carolina's? I do interpret the message as meaning well to the gay person. I just wonder did the group that placed them, feel the climate towards gays warranted the signs.
You can't change the marriage status quo by remaining silent.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Murrayville, Georgia
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this billboard use to be in Greenville SC
So, why did you bring this up?
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:06 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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So, why did you bring this up?
Because it on the same topic
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:10 AM
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The billboard seems extremely hypocritical to me.

Gay folks frequently say that their sexual preference is their own business, but flaunting gay relationships, in public is directly at odds with the "its not your business" mantra. Kind of like "they" want it both ways, when convenient. For the dense, I put "they" in quotes for a reason.

I don't care what ones lifestyle or sexual preference may be, I am bigoted against stupid. I think the board is stupid.

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Old 12-21-2009, 06:03 AM
 
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The billboard seems extremely hypocritical to me.

Gay folks frequently say that their sexual preference is their own business, but flaunting gay relationships, in public is directly at odds with the "its not your business" mantra. Kind of like "they" want it both ways, when convenient. For the dense, I put "they" in quotes for a reason.

I don't care what ones lifestyle or sexual preference may be, I am bigoted against stupid. I think the board is stupid.

lln
LLN, I don't think the billboard is so much about flaunting one's sexuality as it is about acceptance and equal rights. You say it's stupid, but I don't think it's nearly as stupid as denying gay people the basic rights that married heterosexual couples take for granted, such as inheritance rights, insurance coverage, medical decisions, etc.

And I suppose I'm dense, but I'll ask anyway--what is the reason you put "they" in quotes?
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I think its a shame gay people are treated as some sort of separate class (generally lower) in this country to begin with. There are many gay people that don't have their picture on a sign. They don't flaunt as people like to say their so called lifestyle. They are hard working tax paying people that many don't even know about. Never the less the constant obsession with a persons orientation. The contant gossip about who they are, and all these states voting on them as some sort of a Thing that wants to marry, takes a toll on a person. Any fool can figure out the voting is saying alot more than someone wanting to marry.

Personally with all that is so seriously wrong in this country. Wars that go on and on. An economy that is in the tank. People with no Health Care. Guns and shootings everywhere more and more each year now. All these horrible things and yet people have fixated on gay people and their marriages or just the fact gays are in America. If just an ounce of all this time spent on beating up on gays in America was spent on fixing its many problems. Then what a wonderful country we could have. Really to those people I say take a look at thier own life and marriage because something is really off in thier lifes.

Maybe there is a need for these signs, I don't know I don't live there. I do hope when I visit the Carolina's in May, and I have to be honest I would really not want to see these signs. I don't want to see a climate that breeds the need for these signs. There is more than enough to absorb when visiting a place we may decide to live. Then of course if the climate was so terrible on this subject or I was hit by how terrible gay people are in our society. Well then I would reconsider retiring in the Carolina's. I prefer people live their lifes however they like and leave me alone.
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Gay folks frequently say that their sexual preference is their own business, but flaunting gay relationships, in public is directly at odds with the "its not your business" mantra. Kind of like "they" want it both ways, when convenient. For the dense, I put "they" in quotes for a reason.
When is the last time you actually saw a gay couple "flaunting" their relationship in public? What were they doing--holding hands? How many straight couples do you see holding hands, hugging, or even kissing in public. Do you believe they should not "flaunt" their relationships in such a way? Would you consider kissing your partner at the airport (or either gender) "flaunting" a relationship?

The vast majority of gay people don't do anything to "flaunt" their relationship in public, while the majority of heterosexual couples DO. You'll need to find another "argument" if you're going to talk about "hypocrits".

The sign in question was put up by one particular group--"they" (gay people as a whole) did not get together and vote to put it up; it is not "wanting to have it both ways". What "they" want more than anything else is to end the double standard, where straight people can literally make out in public and have it go unnoticed, while a gay couple is said to be "throwing it in people's faces" if they even hug or hold hands.
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Old 12-26-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: New England
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One is natural the other is not. Pretty easy to understand why one is generally "not acceptable" to people.

I personally don't care how people express their sexuality or what they do in the privacy of their own home, but two people of the same gender showing sexual attraction to one another is not normal or natural. It's not, and trying to force people to accept it as normal is wrong.
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