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Old 08-23-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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They give to charity, im sorry when has charity or doing the right thing been about personal profits, no offense but do you think that if they couldn't get a tax writeoff do you think they would give the money away? cont
Don't know, doesn't matter.

Do you think the tax writeoff in any way, shape or form comes close to reimbursing them for the donation?
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Maybe thats the problem there is no such thing as enough?
What's "enough" for you, and if you reach "enough" would you give the rest back? Buck up, now, be honest.

I suspect, you'd suddently have a new, higher "enough".

And, no, it isn't a problem.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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I don't think we want a society where the government decides what is enough and starts taxing at 100%. You lose all incentive to grow.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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I do and sometimes i see things priced 7 times it should, for the cost of materials it takes to make it.

You haven't a clue about manufacturing. Meterials costs, delivery costs, shrinkage costs, spoilage costs, Manufacturing "waste" costs, warehousing costs, insuring costs, labor to receive it, inspect it, count it, warehouse, safeguard it, and then the production, and the costs associated therwith, begins.

Do you think manufacturing workers should work for free so you can get a "deal"?
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Maybe we should nationalize Walmart?

Oh wait, isn't that what Castro did in the early 60's. Having personally been to Cuba, it is a sad state of affairs with limitations on what a business can do.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:25 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Employes, everyone has a liveable wage and for the most part is happy, which has shown in our production and has made us win awards for one of the best products(in what we produce) in the country, comp with corporate owned companies.

The point was think outside the box.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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You haven't a clue about manufacturing. Meterials costs, delivery costs, shrinkage costs, spoilage costs, Manufacturing "waste" costs, warehousing costs, insuring costs, labor to receive it, inspect it, count it, warehouse, safeguard it, and then the production, and the costs associated therwith, begins.

Do you think manufacturing workers should work for free so you can get a "deal"?
I don't have a clue? i manufacture one product. Read my last two posts. In fact viper i live not 3 blocks away from you in portland, so my business ideal cant be all that bad, and we are small. Yup nothing more then a dumb native boy from waipahu with Hawai'i education.

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Old 08-23-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Employes, everyone has a liveable wage and for the most part is happy, which has shown in our production and has made us win awards for one of the best products(in what we produce) in the country, comp with corporate owned companies.

The point was think outside the box.
What is a livable wage? It is a meaningless term, because it is completely subjective. Artificially subsidizing them, just prevents them from self-improvement steps which truly help them.


If you think, even for a second, that you are thinking "outside the box" you are sadly mistaken. Your thinking is the most "inside the box" thinking there is, except the box represents bondage and slavery. Study history.

I suggest you spend a year or two reading about it. Study, Castro, Pol Pot, Minh, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Amin, Duche and see how they did things.

We, thankfully, do things completely differently here.

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Old 08-23-2013, 08:35 PM
 
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I don't have a clue? i manufacture one product. Read my last two posts. In fact viper i live not 3 blocks away from you in portland, so my business ideal cant be all that bad, and we are small. Yup nothing more then a dumb native boy from waipahu with Hawai'i education.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:48 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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[quote=Rounds Complete;31103799]What is a livable wage? It is a meaningless term, because it is completely subjective. Artificially subsidizing them, just prevents them from self-improvement steps which truly help them.


If you think, even for a second, that you are thinking "outside the box" you are sadly mistaken. Your thinking is the most "inside the box" thinking there is, except the box represents bondage and slavery. Study history.

Understanding you probably went to public school - in Hawaii - and don't know much of history, I suggest you spend a year or two reading about it. Study, Castro, Pol Pot, Minh, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Amin,

Whatever, its not socialism dude, my guys also have opportunities to make more then base pay ok. You must be fighting so hard for a system that doesn't have the focus of everyones well being because your prob one of the 40% in America that is benefiting the most from the current Aristocracy attitudes and classism. Or before you question my patriotism im a veteran ok.
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