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And its ok brah, most people think capitalism is democracy, so people think if they defend it they are being patriotic. Capitalism is a economic system, that has nothing to do with a government model.
What is a livable wage? It is a meaningless term, because it is completely subjective. Artificially subsidizing them, just prevents them from self-improvement steps which truly help them.
If you think, even for a second, that you are thinking "outside the box" you are sadly mistaken. Your thinking is the most "inside the box" thinking there is, except the box represents bondage and slavery. Study history.
Understanding you probably went to public school - in Hawaii - and don't know much of history, I suggest you spend a year or two reading about it. Study, Castro, Pol Pot, Minh, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Amin,
Whatever, its not socialism dude, my guys also have opportunities to make more then base pay ok. You must be fighting so hard for a system that doesn't have the focus of everyones well being because your prob one of the 40% in America that is benefiting the most from the current Aristocracy attitudes and classism. Or before you question my patriotism im a veteran ok.
Your ideas are worse than socialism, they approach totalitarianism. Telling people or companies what is "enough". Please.
Does anyone tell you what "enough" is? No, nor should they.
BTW, I never questioned your patriotism, for I have no reason to.
I do, however, question the ideas you put forth. To be honest, they are in the "can"- always have, always will. They are not "outside the box", they are "down the loo".
Your ideas are worse than socialism, they approach totalitarianism. Telling people or companies what is "enough". Please.
Does anyone tell you what "enough" is? No, nor should they.
BTW, I never questioned your patriotism, for I have no reason to.
I do, however, question the ideas you put forth. To be honest, they are in the "can"- always have, always will. They are not "outside the box", they are "down the loo".
Yes ppl do tell me enough, when im hurting others or myself. Or its not all about you when i think im "all that" Being an mature evolved adult recognises that he/shes is responsible for his/her actions and to a degree am responsible for others, which unfortunately i never hear from the wealthy.
Im curious if we the people never forced business to do a min wage, i wonder, left to what employers like wallmart, or others who feel paying min wage is too much for min skilled positions? What would you you pay? Would we be
Back to the days of child labor, or the days of paying coalminers .25 a day? Thats extreem regime time folks.
Your positions are always going off of the deep end. Too much - way too much. If you don't like the wage, don't work there - simple.
If a brain surgeon takes a job at McDonalds, the job of hamburger flipper he takes still is only worth what it is worth. It is the value of the service, not the value of the person doing it.
Earn as much as you want. If you want to stop at $100K, that is fine, or $1M or whatever. But don't tell people that making money is wrong. Sittng on your ass, is wrong. Not gaining skills to take care of yourself is wrong, but earning money is never wrong, as long as it is done honestly.
Yes ppl do tell me enough, when im hurting others or myself. Or its not all about you when i think im "all that" Being an mature evolved adult recognises that he/shes is responsible for his/her actions and to a degree am responsible for others, which unfortunately i never hear from the wealthy.
Im curious if we the people never forced business to do a min wage, i wonder, left to what employers like wallmart, or others who feel paying min wage is too much for min skilled positions? What would you you pay? Would we be
I would pay the least amount it took to get the job done. In critical positions, where motivations is a concern, I would offer enticements in the form of Bonus's, Commission's.
Your positions are always going off of the deep end. Too much - way too much. If you don't like the wage, don't work there - simple.
If a brain surgeon takes a job at McDonalds, the job of hamburger flipper he takes still is only worth what it is worth. It is the value of the service, not the value of the person doing it.
Earn as much as you want. If you want to stop at $100K, that is fine, or $1M or whatever. But don't tell people that making money is wrong. Sittng on your ass, is wrong. Not gaining skills to take care of yourself is wrong, but earning money is never wrong, as long as it is done honestly.
AHH i think i found our misunderstanding, no im not suggesting we support lazyness nor end profits, all im saying when is it going to be enough? when the benifits of a few outway the welbeing of the whole. No profits are good and just and are a measure of ones efforts, money isn't bad. But like anything else when it goes to an extreem like an addiction,
The damage can be to others, communities. The only argument i have is when has 20 million dollar paychecks to CEOs been based on value of work or hard work?
Further i also agree that people still need to better themselves with education and job skills, but its a balancing act between self improvement and reasorces,how one but not the other, sorry you are not going anywere.
AHH i think i found our misunderstanding, no im not suggesting we support lazyness nor end profits, all im saying when is it going to be enough? when the benifits of a few outway the welbeing of the whole. No profits are good and just and are a measure of ones efforts, money isn't bad. But like anything else when it goes to an extreem like an addiction,
To be honest, it is "enough" when I say it is enough - at whatever point that is. There is not "real" or "objective" enough - just what my motivations push to do.
Tell me, if you can (and you can't), how does my making money, oodles of money, hurt anyone else?
And so what, if one is "addicted" to earning money. Why is that either a "concern" for society, or an issue at all, much less "bad".
Who is to say where the boundry of "extreme" is. $1M, $10M, $100M???
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