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Old 11-22-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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Who cares? It doesn't affect me anymore then the other refugees or asylum seekers that have come to the U.S. during my lifetime, which neither I or most of you people have bothered to take any notice of. As for the makeup of the refugees, given the fact that they had to pay money to be smuggled out of the country, and survive an incredibly perilous journey to safety, it makes a lot of sense that the population wouldn't primarily be elderly, children, uneducated or destitute. They are fleeing horrific violence, they don't want to die. Syrians did not perpetrate the attacks on Paris. They have the potential to be productive citizens of whatever country they settle in, so it's good if some of them do come to America.

Just like people who with homes think they are the true victims of homelessness, it appears that people who have never had to flee their homes and lose everything due to war and violence, think they are the true victims of the refugee crisis because of fox news.

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Old 11-22-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Who cares? It doesn't affect me anymore then the other refugees or asylum seekers that have come to the U.S. during my lifetime, which neither I or most of you people have bothered to take any notice of.
That is quite a shortsighted viewpoint. The statements the governor made are less about the Syrian refugees than about a governor who makes comments that are so out of touch with reality. We have an incredibly strained social services network today and have to governor who is willing to make statements like that makes you wonder what other kind of things are is he willing to do considering the state of the state.
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Refugees may impose a temporary financial burden on the state, but I'd be willing to bet that their desire to better themselves in a new land will make them among the more productive members of society after a while. I think its a good investment in the state's future (apart from being the humanitarian thing to do).
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Refugees may impose a temporary financial burden on the state, but I'd be willing to bet that their desire to better themselves in a new land will make them among the more productive members of society after a while. I think its a good investment in the state's future (apart from being the humanitarian thing to do).
Just like the Micronesians have in Hawaii?
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Just like the Micronesians have in Hawaii?
Like the Cubans in Florida, the Jews in NY, or how about the general history of immigrant innovation and determination in this country.
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Old 12-12-2015, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Ah, so you think Syrians coming halfway around the world will do much better than Micronesians closer to home in Hawaii.
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Old 12-12-2015, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Ah, so you think Syrians coming halfway around the world will do much better than Micronesians closer to home in Hawaii.


Yes. The cultural mindset is very different.
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Old 12-12-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Yes. The cultural mindset is very different.

Because the people of Hawaii embrace Muslims so much more and our high density of Mosques means they will feel less out of place?
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Old 12-12-2015, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Because the people of Hawaii embrace Muslims so much more and our high density of Mosques means they will feel less out of place?
No.

The motivation of the two cultures is vastly different. Religion is not the end all of what defines an immigrant. It is an independent observation of two cultures outside of whatever western location they choose to settle in.
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Old 12-12-2015, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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I've been to the middle east a few times, albeit not Syria. And I certainly never got the impression it was a terribly hard working society as opposed to let's say the Chinese
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